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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 10:20 AM
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Roberts' baseball Analogy - commentoon (Re; Choice)
Edited on Tue Sep-20-05 10:21 AM by MaineDem
http://womensenews.org/article.cfm/dyn/aid/2452


I'd post the actual cartoon but I don't have permission.
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 10:22 AM
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1. The umpire analogy is flawed to the core
TRIAL judges are umpires.

Appellate and SC justices are NOT umpires.

This alone should prove the man is unfit for the position.
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 10:42 AM
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2. the story about three baseball umpires

The first one said, "I call them as I see them."

The second one said, "I call them as they are."

The third one said, "They're nothing until I call them."


Roberts: "Judges are like umpires. Umpires don't make the rules; they apply them ..."
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 10:44 AM
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3. But the Supreme Court CAN make the rules
So his analogy is flawed.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 10:53 AM
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6. Right. Key point is that every umpire has his own strike zone. We
have a right to know where Roberts' strike zone is.
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mike923 Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 10:46 AM
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4. Do we want judges making laws?
I'd rather leave it with the legislative branch. With the judicial branch overseeing the legality of the laws. Somehow this makes more sense.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 10:49 AM
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5. That's what we have now, right?
I don't think anyone's questioning that; at least I'm not.

My point in the original post was to show the cartoon not to debate the anaolgy. That's been done ad infinitum elsewhere here at DU.

Sometimes a cartoon is just a cartoon. ;)
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Raiden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:18 AM
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7. The umpire analogy is BULLSHIT!
A Supreme Court Justice's power far transcends the power of an umpire. A trial judge - maybe, their power is solely to call it as they see it. A Supreme Court Justice has far more responsibility and power. A SC Justice can actually make rules. See Brown v The Board of Education, Griswold v Connecticut, Roe v Wade, Lawrence v Texas. When a law is unconstitutional the SC makes law by replacing it with (what they believe to be) a constitional one. An umpire cannot change the rules of baseball.


For that analogy alone every Dem should oppose him. The right-wing is out to destroy the judicial branch and merge the legislative and executive branch together, along with the corporate powers of the US into one big fascist "PATRIOT" Branch. This is very scary stuff. Robert's will no doubt increase the executive branch's power and extend corporate rights - not to mention declare a Christian jihad against the right to choose, privacy, free speech, separation of church and state, corporate regulations, the environment, social programs, and all that is truly American in this country. John Robert's should be fought tooth and nail against by every person who believes fundamentally in the Constitution.
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daninthemoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:55 AM
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8. It sure makes the American public warm & fuzzy, though.
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Raiden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:08 PM
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10. Baseball--what a perfect way to dumb down Politics 101
Edited on Tue Sep-20-05 12:09 PM by Raiden
I HATE this dumbed down political culture. What happened to critical thinking in this country?
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mike923 Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:00 PM
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9. Thinking longer term...
i believe the GOP will lose the '06 election, bringing the senate and congress close to a 50/50 split. In '08, i think we will have the majority, and the white house. All that is left is the judicial, which will take a few years to over turn. In this scenerio, we don't want Bush appointed judges making or changing laws created by our congress and president.
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