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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 01:02 PM
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Stop Baker3 & Carter's national ID requirement to vote.
Edited on Tue Sep-20-05 01:11 PM by paineinthearse
http://www.conyersblog.us/archives/00000245.htm

Blogged by JC on 09.19.05 @ 08:33 AM ET

STOP JAMES BAKER, III FROM DOING IT AGAIN

Cross-posted at BRAD BLOG

I have spent my more than 40 years in public service fighting for voting rights and a better democracy. Today, I am sad to say, there are proposals being made that would set us back in that struggle. A privately funded, unaccountable Commission organized by former Bush-Cheney campaign lawyer James Baker, III, and former President Jimmy Carter issued a report today that includes policy proposals that will disenfranchise over ten percent of eligible voters – a national ID requirement to vote. I need your help to fight this 21st Century poll tax today.

The simple fact is that many minority and poor voters do not have the time, money or need to purchase a drivers license. In fact, over ten percent of eligible voters in the last election did not have a photo ID. They vote by presenting other means of identification (a voter registration card, utility bill, or affidavit). This Commission is now asking Congress to deny the franchise to those voters unless they get a national ID card. The Commission makes the implausible claim that, in these times of a multibillion dollar war in Iraq and multibillion dollar restoration of the Gulf Coast, the Congress will pay for ID cards for those who cannot afford to buy them. We know this is not going to happen.

Even if you are not among these vulnerable populations, this affects you. The institution of a National ID card has throughout our history been the tool of every despotic regime the world has known. This recommendation, coupled with the Commission’s recommendation of interoperable data bases of voters, is the first step toward data bases of American citizens.

Make no mistake about it, this national ID voting card is more of the same old Ken Blackwell-style Republican electoral dirty tricks, where Democratic voters are deliberately disenfranchised so that Republicans can win elections. Remember the lack of voting machines in Ohio for Democratic voters? Remember the machines that broke down or registered strange numbers of votes for George Bush or unknown third party candidates? Remember Ken Blackwell’s paper weight requirements for voter registration cards?

Imagine if the Republican party can, in one fell swoop, legally prohibit more than ten percent of voters, most of them poor, minority and elderly voters, most of them Democratic voters, from being able to vote.

Please help me today. I have made the front page of my website - www.johnconyers.com - into an action center on this issue. It will be constantly updated with actions you can take to help and up to the minute news on this issue. Thanks for your help and your continued stand for a better democracy.

Sign on to my letter to congressional leadership demanding No Voter ID in Any Voting Rights Legislation. - http://johnconyers.com/index.asp?Type=SUPERFORMS&SEC=%7B99FFEEE4-D8DC-4CD8-992B-9EB3A4F0123A%7D

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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 01:04 PM
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1. Don't forget to tell the fundies
that a national ID card is the mark of the beast.

Seriously.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 01:07 PM
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2.  I second that
:kick:
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 01:13 PM
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3. signed.
this is a very very BAD idea. Just one more way to know more about our private decisions.
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sweetladybug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 01:17 PM
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4. done! I can't believe Carter agreed to this
n/t
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 01:36 PM
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5. Ignorance removal needed--how exactly will a national ID prevent
voter fraud?? I mean, under-21 Americans have been doing this for years and getting away with no ID or forgeries. Exactly how will ID cards make it any better? How will a PHOTO help anything?

I don't see anything wrong with the system right now. My name is on a list because I registered to vote either at the County Clerk's office or at the polls (here in WI, we can register at the polls). All I have to do is present a utility bill 30 days or older that shows that I live in the precinct and it's all done.

Yes, this system can be cheated. But so can Voter ID cards. That's cheatable too.

What is the logic behind these cards helping stop voter fraud? There will still be people with the same last names on the cards. Parents and children with the same first AND last names, will probably even tend to LOOK ALIKE in the photos.

I don't get it!
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 01:42 PM
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6. Proposed Voter ID Could Be New Poll Tax
Proposed Voter ID Could Be New Poll Tax

by email

Stop James Baker III from Doing it Again

I have spent more than 40 years in public service fighting for voting rights and a better democracy. Today, I am sad to say, there are proposals being readied that would set us back in that struggle. A privately funded, unaccountable Commission organized by former Bush-Cheney campaign lawyer James Baker, III, and former President Jimmy Carter issued a report today that includes policy proposals that will disenfranchise over ten percent of eligible voters –– a national ID requirement to vote. This national voter ID proposal is essentially a poll tax that will disenfranchise Americans of all backgrounds, but the poor, the disabled, the elderly, students, and people of color would bear the greatest burden. The Katrina victims – those without the means to escape the storm – typify the population that the Commission's ID proposal will most likely leave out of our democracy.


Petition
http://johnconyers.com/petition


Donate
http://johnconyers.com/donate


Join With Me in Fighting Against This New Poll Tax Proposal
http://johnconyers.com

The simple fact is that many minority and poor voters do not have the time, money or need to purchase a drivers license. In fact, over ten percent of eligible voters in the last election did not have a photo ID. They vote by presenting other means of identification (a voter registration card, utility bill, or affidavit). This Commission is now asking Congress to deny the franchise to those voters unless they obtain a national ID card.

The implausible claim is made that Congress will pay for ID cards for those who cannot afford to buy them. Yet, given the shortfalls in funding and implementation of the Help America Vote Act, combined with the multibillion-dollar costs for restoration of the Gulf Coast and the ongoing war in Iraq, we know this is not going to happen.
Join With Me in Fighting Against This New Poll Tax Proposal
http://johnconyers.com

Even those who would not be directly affected by this provision have expressed concern about its potential threat to personal privacy. The institution of a National ID card has throughout world history been a tool of repression. This recommendation, coupled with the Commission's recommendation of interoperable databases of voters, would mark the first step toward the creation of national registries of American citizens.

Make no mistake about it, this national ID voting card will result in the disenfranchisement of poor and minority voters and make us susceptible to the same old Ken Blackwell-style Republican electoral dirty tricks that cost Senator Kerry the election in Ohio. Remember the lack of voting machines in Ohio for Democratic voters? Remember the machines that broke down or registered strange numbers of votes for George Bush or unknown third party candidates? Remember Ken Blackwell's paper weight requirements for voter registration cards?

Imagine if the Republican party can, in one fell swoop, apply new legal obstacles to more than ten percent of voters, most of them poor, minority and elderly voters, most of them Democratic voters, from being able to vote.

I am challenging you to get involved and fight this poll tax. Visit my website, http://johnconyers.com, to sign my petition to House Leadership and write a letter to the editor demanding that this proposal not be enacted. I have converted this website into a voting rights action center to address this issue. It will be constantly updated with up-to-the-minute news on this issue and actions you can take to help.

Thank you for your help and your continued stand for a better democracy.

Sincerely,

John Conyers, Jr.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 02:07 PM
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7. Read Larisa Alexandrovna’s article in HuffPo
Read Larisa Alexandrovna’s article in HuffPo - Baked-Cooked Election Reform
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4829315&mesg_id=4829315
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 04:00 PM
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8. Related post in LBN
Source is CommonDreams (when did Common Dreams become a news source? thought it was a blog, which are not allowed as sources in LBN)

:shrug:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1792847&mesg_id=1792847
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 05:15 PM
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9. .
evening :kick:
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 05:23 PM
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10. I don't believe it would be legal for precisely those reasons.
Edited on Tue Sep-20-05 05:24 PM by Pepperbelly
This is nothing but a poll tax in another form. It is not constitutional to disenfranchise someone who does not have the wherewithal to purchase the ID card. In what way is this NOT a poll tax?
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 06:56 AM
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11. .
morning :kick:
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 08:57 AM
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12. self-delete
Edited on Wed Sep-21-05 08:58 AM by paineinthearse
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