"By an 8-point margin, voters are more likely to call themselves Democrats

[Pirate Smile]

than Republicans"

Here is the full paragraph:

""For the first time, senior Republican consultants and lawmakers are warning the White House that Bush's base is perilously close to deserting him. The poll underscores their concerns: By an 8-point margin, voters are more likely to call themselves Democrats than Republicans; there was no gap in self-identification a year ago."

That is new and, IMO, this is BIG.

I certainly haven't been seeing the W stickers I saw earlier in the year (which I wanted to ram with my minivan - tsk, tsk). I think a lot of people have been scraping those bumper stickers off.

That is from the new AP poll.

Katrina Raises Voters' Doubts About Bush By RON FOURNIER, AP

WASHINGTON - Hurricane Katrina and the bungled government response have weakened President Bush, raising questions among Americans about his Iraq and flood-recovery plans and spreading fears among fellow Republicans about next year's elections.

An AP-Ipsos poll says nearly six in 10 people disapprove of Bush's job performance, unchanged from the record-low rating he had before last week's televised address from the heart of New Orleans.

That underscores why GOP leaders fear Bush could be a drag on GOP candidates in 2006.

-snip-
That may play into two presidential decisions that threaten to divide the GOP coalition: Bush's nomination to replace Justice Sandra Day O'Connor and his final plans for Katrina spending. Social conservatives are demanding an anti-abortion Supreme Court justice. Some Republicans want him to select a woman or minority, and perhaps avoid a bitter fight by selecting a relative moderate.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050920/ap_on_go_pr_wh/katrina_bush_ap_poll

[HereSince1628]

1. We've always outnumbered them, we just don't count the votes

[Pirate Smile]

4. But that gap was not there a year ago. Either Republicans are

ashamed to identify themselves or no longer consider themselves Republicans -OR- more Democrats are willing to identify themselves now or more people now consider themselves Democrats.

Any way you look at it, it is good for the Democrats.

[TwilightZone]

6. Or 8% of the population sways with the wind.

If that's the case, we need to capitalize on the swing and make sure that they stay in our direction for the '06 races.

[insane_cratic_gal]

67. or 8% didn't vote

We can't forget the amount of people in this country who do not vote.

If we are to beat the repukes we need a bigger spread point margin to beat the cheating.

[MADem]

72. About half of our population does not bother to vote...pretty sad. n/t

[FreedomAngel82]

57. I think so too

My mother used to be a republican and I think now she's more so an indie and mostly votes by canidate instead of party and stuff. I think the more people view the "new republicans" the more people are turned off. Hopefully anyways.

[DarkTirade]

76. I've always considered myself an indie...

but looking at the republicans the last 10 or 20 years, I really can't see myself voting for anyone BUT the guy running against the republican. :)

[CAcyclist]

74. Well, last year I was a Green and now I'm a Democrat

There's a large number of people who refuse to identify their political party or who are independent.

People keep thinking of the population as either Democrats or Republicans, but independents often out-number both parties. We're far more likely to convert Greens and independents to the Democratic party than we are to get disaffected Republicans to identify as Democrats and registering new voters is still important too.

[VaYallaDawg]

75. I think there's some shame goin' round now!

This is a TOTALLY repub state and we're in the middle of a governor's campaign - usually that virtually papers the roads with GOP yard signs, but not this time. I'm hoping things are beginning to swing!

[Trevelyan]

61. I think the left just blew it. Rep. Barbara Lee's A Resolution of Inquiry

which is the first step to IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS lost by one vote according to http://www.AfterDowningStreet.org

We could have had The Beginnings of Impeachment Hearings starting last week if we had been paying attention.

I think the Resolution of Inquiry can be submitted again but not for awhile. It occurred to me that FReepers might be right about the left.

I did not realize that the RESOLUTION FOR INQUIRY was the beginning of House deliberations on IMPEACHMENT and at the very least would have alerted Americans to be prepared for the Special Prosecutor Fitzgerald's coming indictments - I hope he will send the Federal Marshalls soon to arrest the whole bush crime cartel.

Everyone keeps saying please, please, please let Fitz issue indictments but how much support do you show by writing Congress. ONE VOTE SHORT!!! How often do you visit http://www.AfterDowningStreet.org ? This is where the rubber meets the road not just moaning or praying pretty please with sugar BUT KEEPING UP. Rep. Conyers was very disappointed that some of those who signed his and Sen. kerry's letter for the Resolution of Inquiry backed out and did not co-sponsor which was necessary for the Impeachment to begin.

How often do you at least check Rep. Conyers' blog to see what he is working on and offer your support either by posting on the Blog or by participating in his action items.

No good just saying you love him and having his picture on your icon but why not go now to his main site, also accessable from the Blog and participate as he has requested by SIGNING HIS LETTER ON THE DISENFRANCHISEMENT OF POOR VOTERS UP TO 10% BY THE ID CARD REQUIRED BY THE BAKER-CARTER COMMISSION ON VOTING. Conyer's also has a form on his site for you to contact the local media. I cannot figure out why people on this site say they want honest voting or that they love and respect Cindy or Conyers for their courage and by the lack of number of posts just sit on their hands and are the Left's own KEYBOARD BRIGADE, OR YELLOW ELEPHANTS or CHICKEN HAWKS.

I am disgusted, you all make me ashamed to be a liberal. Put your money where your mouth is!!!!! Get INVOLVED!!!!!!!!!!

:P :think: :kick: :shrug: :puffpiece: :cry: :cry: :hangover: :spank: :grr: :puffpiece:

[Trevelyan]

62. And While Your at it, If you do decide to do something instead of running

off at the keyboard. Some of you just might want to email Rep. Hinchey through http://www.Congress.org to THANK HIM FOR STANDING UP AND GETTING 40 SIGNATURES TO SUPPORT SPECIAL PROSECUTOR PATRICK FITZGERALD AND HIS GRAND JURY FOR INVESTIGATING MORE BUSH REGIME CRIMES THAN PLAMEGATE.

And if you are really feeling REVOLUTIONARY you might email or write to one or more of the 40 Congresspersons who signed his letter for a wider net to capture the criminally insane Bush Regime.

I swear I think most of you like having Bush to kick around and would be lost if you did not have this entertainment.

PEOPLE ARE DYING BECAUSE OF THE BUSH REGIME'S CRIMES. Stop him before he commits mass murder again by at least being brave enough and doing the "hard work" of writing an email or signing Rep. Conyers petitions so we have a chance at fair elections.

The FReepers call us losers and though we object vociferously, I think we have gotten into a loser, whiny mode and do NOTHING even when it is in our grasp like the Resolution of Inquiry into THE DOWNING STREET MINUTES. Don't you people keep up?

They say you become what you hate and I see the left turning into effete, intellectual snobs with no action and looking more each day like a Smirking Chimp by concentrating on junior high School insults of the Smirking Chimp himself!

Sign Rep. Conyers petition or you will forever be a hypocrite no matter how much obscene language you use in insulting the chimperor, you are enablers by your INACTION!!!!!!!

[WCGreen]

63. We always have outnumber them in registration...

But they pick off enough with the Gun Control and Anti-Choice rhetoric to win...

their base among young people, their claim to fame over the last fifteen to twenty years, is gone....

[liberal N proud]

2. I think that the Democrats have always out numbered the repukes

the problem is getting all to vote and to agree on who to vote for.
The only reason repukes ever win an election in this country is because there are a large block of Democrats that will vote for the candidate of their choice regardless of the party affiliation.

You get all Dem's to vote and all Dem's to agree on who to vote for then the only issue you have left is keeping the corruption out of the voting process and counting the ballots.

[sarcasmo]

7. Voter Holiday would help the Dems win every year.

That's why there will be no Voter Holiday. Imagine the # of union auto workers who don't vote each year.

[ultraist]

44. Voter holiday is CRITICAL. Most of our people are poor or working class

Kerry won the poor votes and lower middle class while Bush won the upper and wealthy votes.

Our people cannot AFFORD to take off of work to vote.

We also need to crank up the voter registration and transportation to the polls!!! I volunteered in my area for the 04 GE and we had so many volunteer drivers and so little organization---that we did not get out NEARLY as many people as we could have. We also need VANS in every area to drive through neighborhoods and do "knock and drags" like moveon does.

Getting our people registered and to the polls is KEY to winning.

[Hippo_Tron]

52. I disagree and agree at the same time

Obviously a voter holiday would encourage more people to vote. However, I think that in many instances, people can make time to vote but they just don't.

There ARE certainly circumstances when this is not the case, however...

These include

- Polls closing ridiculously early like at 6pm

- Excessively long lines like we saw in Ohio

- Bosses intentionally having their workers work late so that they can't vote

- Roadblocks preventing people from getting to the polls

I think that as nice as a voting holiday would be, the more practical solution would be to work on the above problems.

[FreedomAngel82]

60. Where do polls close at six?

Just wondering. Here polls are open from 8am till 8pm est. We knew the results of our mayor race at 10pm est and all seemed to go well. The canidate who is now the mayor won all the polls but one leading up.

[Hippo_Tron]

78. I think I remember CNN saying that they closed at 6 in Indiana

[FreedomAngel82]

59. Don't forget college kids

We have school too on voting day. It would be nice to be able to either vote on campus or have off that day the whole country.

[FreedomAngel82]

58. I think so too

Didn't Hilary Clinton bring this up last year after the election? She, John Kerry and Barbara Boxer have a whole election reform group going on.

[Peace Patriot]

32. I don't know if I buy your thesis, liberal N proud. We were all agreed on

on John Kerry by the end of the convention (--end of the primaries, really), put all differences aside, and worked our tails off, achieving a blowout in new voter registration in 2004, nearly 60/40 (Dem/Repub). People were flocking to the Dem Party, and the great majority of new voters, independent voters and Nader voters voted for Kerry. We COULD NOT have lost, is the truth of the matter.

So what did unity get us? A Dem Party leadership that failed to fight against, or warn us about, two rightwing corporations--Diebold and ES&S--having gained control of the vote tabulation with SECRET PROPRIETARY programming code--code so secret that not even our secretaries of state are permitted to review it--with not even paper trail (let alone real auditing) in a third of the country, and extremely inadequate auditing all over.

And when you look into this, you find that DEMOCRATIC as well as Repub sec's of state and local election officials were signing these horrible contracts with Diebold, ES&S and others containing "trade secret" vote tabulation. And then you find out about items like the event at the Beverly Hilton this August--a week of fun, sun and high end shopping for election officials from around the country, sponsored by Diebold, ES&S and Sequoia.*

We need a BIG BROOM, friends. And the Republicans are not the only ones who need their house cleaned.

----------

Requirements for a transparent, verifiable election...

Paper ballots hand-counted at the precinct level (--Canada does it in one day, although speed should not even be a consideration, just accuracy and verifiability)

or, at the least...

Paper ballot (not "paper trail") backup of all electronic voting, a 10% automatic recount, very strict security, and NO SECRET, PROPRIETARY programming code! (...jeez!).

----------

*Corruption of our election system (Beverly Hilton, 2005):
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x380340

[Trevelyan]

53. In Maryland, Linda Lamone, went ahead with the purchase of Diebold

after the professor from Stanford who wrote a book on Diebold's cheating and someone tried to have him fired but the Dean of Stanford wouldn't do it.

Maryland's Linda Lamone had to justify her choice to go ahead with contracts with Diebold that had been halted because of the revelations but she got away with it and received a ridiculous letter from someone in her office that just because the machines were owned by someone who was partisan - Wally O'Dell writing in fundraising letter that Diebold had promised Ohio to Bush a year before the "election' - didn't mean they weren't honest.

Write Marylanders to Anapolis to get rid of our own Ken Blackwell!

[raccoon]

69. Another thing, people in low-level, low-paying, crappy jobs

are more likely to vote Democratic. Many of these people

--can't get to the polls because they don't have transportation
--can't vote because their power-tripping employer won't let them take time off to vote
--can't vote because they only get paid for hours they are at work, and when you're making crappy wages every dollar counts.

[Arkana]

3. But of course.

Why is this even news?

[Mr Rabble]

5. This is very important.

FWIW, the average citizen is likely to treat politics as they do sports teams.

These people will identify strongly with their team, regardless of performance.

I think this speaks volumes about the general tone of the public.

[Pirate Smile]

9. Right. Most people don't pay as much attention as we do. If one

party's brand is seen as good or cool, it does influence people who are less informed. The Democratic brand name has been demonized effectively for decades by Republicans. If Republican brand is damaged (as it should be) that is definitely good news.

I don't believe the article made clear if the self identified Dems jumped or the Republicans fell or if it is a combo of both.

We know that a gap has grown regarding who people say they will vote for in their Congressional races. Dems now have a 12% point lead (50%-38% in one poll and 52%-40% in another if I remember correctly).

[Awsi Dooger]

29. Those Congressional numbers didn't thrill me

Our number is simply not high enough. Remember last year when we were emphasizing that even when Bush was leading in the polls he seldom could budge much higher than 50%, and that was considered problematic for an incumbent? Now look at the figures you posted. There has been nothing but disastrous news and performance for Bush, and therefore the GOP, yet we still can't manage anything higher than 50-52%. It demonstrates more of a peeling off of Bush's support than any swell toward us. I would project that any polls asking opinions of the Democratic Party and Republican party would show a decline in opinion of the GOP much more than any heightened approval in our direction.

That is not necessarily sustainable. We need to be viewed as a positive choice, not an alternative to a perceived negative. People want to vote for, not against.

The Party ID status is absolutely critical because Democrats tend to betray our candidate in higher percentage than Republicans. Even if we are a legit +8 in party ID, which I would bet every planetary cent is not true if there would be a nationwide election tomorrow, it does not signify we would win by 8 points. Last year it was 37-37 in party ID and we lost by more than 2.5 points.

This thread is very interesting and potential great news if it lasts, and we can regain much of the Party ID departure due to 9/11. I am still skeptical, since fear is a primary ballot booth default and is 9/11 not distant enough, nor have its causes been expelled. I'll prefer to wait until PEW updates a thorough nationwide Party ID survey. Here is their link from early last year, detailing the Party ID shift toward the GOP post 9/11: http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?PageID=750

[sunnystarr]

30. You're absolutely right

All this means is that 8% could be voting for a 3rd party candidate and create a close enough easy to steal election where Repukes remain in power. The DNC needs a makeover and a message that resonates.

[Guaranteed]

17. Yesssss. You got it.

What this means is that people are becoming quite ashamed to be Republican.

[AntiCoup2K4]

8. Remember that only around 20% of those eligible voted for the Chimp.

That tells you just how much of a minority they are.

Unfortunately, we couldn't get any more people to the polls than they did. The question is WHY?

Given the condition of this country from 2000 - 2004, there's no logical way that any voters stayed home because they didn't think the direction of the country was "conservative enough".

Logically then, the absent voters should be on our side, and would be if the Democratic ticket reflected the values of its own party - and the majority of American voters - rather than necon corporatism sellouts.

We simply cannot afford that mistake in 2006 or 2008. We need the 50% of the voters who have been sitting on the sidelines far more than we do the 10% who can't even make up their mind whether or not George Bush is an evil piece of shit.

[TahitiNut]

10. The University of Michigan's biannual National Election Study ...

... is the primary reference benchmark for partisan identification. Through 2002, the affiliations have been as shown here ...



You can look at the data at ... http://www.umich.edu/~nes/nesguide/toptable/tab2a_1.htm

[ultraist]

46. Democrats were at their peak in 1964, when Democrats were REAL Democrats

We need to 'get back to our roots!' Our party began to shrink when the "New Democrat centrists" started taking over and watering down our message.

[deadparrot]

11. Happily rec'd. Awesome news.

And a HUGE swing from just a year ago. Hopefully, the trend continues.

[ClintonTyree]

12. As long as Diebold is (R).............

it isn't going to make a dime's worth of difference. They're the ones that need to be dealt with, I always thought people were more progressive than they were given credit for. Diebold must be brought into the light of day before any fair elections can ever be held in this country again.

[librechik]

14. they'll be less and less able to hide their malfeasance

as the truth becomes apparent--they are a tiny minority with the power to manipulate the ballot box. That is all.

[KaryninMiami]

28. Thank you. None of these numbers matter until every vote counts i

in the way the voter had intended. Period. If we continue to vote on Diebold, ES&S, Sequoia or any other machines that have hidden source codes and no verified paper ballots AND we continue to have corrupt election officials who stop recounts and illegally refuse to allow people to watch the vote tabulations (and get away with it)- elections will continue to be rigged. If they are rigged again, and we don't regain control of the House and Senate in 2006- these facts will once again, be buried by the media and the pattern will continue.

We were the majority last time-- my guess is by more then 8% but millions of votes were not counted for reasons we already know about.

That's the deal folks- sad but true.

[Nothing Without Hope]

13. The difference is the Press telling some of the truth for a change

They were always holding back the tide by serving spin and lies instead of showing reality. They're still not showing all of reality, but even SOME is enough to turn reasonable peoples' stomachs in revulsion at the monsters who have stolen our country.

Let's hope that this new climate will drive MORE truth - as in the 2000 and 2004 election thefts and the coverup of the lies of the Iraq WMDs, the vast corruption, and the truth of the 9/11 attacks.

[understandinglife]

19. Yes, Hope, exposing folk to the truth is key and the media, for whatever

.... reason, finally managed to do some truth telling regarding Katrina and Bush's spin machine failed to blunt the images people saw.

If the press managed to do the same with Plame, Iraq, 9/11, stolen elections, global warming .... Bush and the neoconsters would have a much bigger problem than bad polls.


Peace.

[Guaranteed]

15. You're absolutely right. That's huge.

This means that we have a good chance of getting the House back in 2006, and a very, very good chance of at least gaining ground in both the House and Senate.

[meganmonkey]

16. I'm one of the new ones

If someone asked me today, I would call myself a Democrat. Mind you, NEVER in my life would I have called myself a Republican. But I am registered independent, and have always called myself indy.

I know many others like me. This is good news.

[Pirate Smile]

18. We know Independents tend toward the Democrats, at least for the

recent past in the polling i.e. disapproval of Bush, etc. so I wonder if more Independents are identifying themselves as Democrats?

We really need to see the details of the poll but they didn't even release Bush's approval number in this article.:shrug: I wonder what the deal is.

[AllyCat]

20. And what will the Dems do with this information?

Sit on their hands and vote Republican.

[wildflower]

21. To use his language, I believe he now has a *mandate*

to pick a Supreme Court justice that the majority of the people want, not a right-winger. Especially since it will affect the country for the next generation.

wildflower

[Pirate Smile]

22. You are right but then he can watch his social conservative base freak.

:evilgrin:

[Minnesota_Lib]

23. American public to Bush: "We are finally smelling the coffee."

[rambler_american]

43. Smelling the coffee?

Doesn't smell like coffee to me.

[Bosso 63]

48. It does smell like something brown.

[Blue Shark]

24. BUT...

...By a 93 to 7 point margin the Central Vote Tabulators used to count 80% of the United State's Elections report Republican "wins".

...NOTHING else matters.

...At least four election cycles and counting. How long do we let it go on?

[renate]

25. here's another nice poll

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-09-19-bush-poll_x.htm?csp=N009

Of the poll's respondents, 30% identified themselves as Republicans, 33% as independents and 36% as Democrats.

[NightOwwl]

38. Ah...what a wonderful headline....

President sinking in ratings

I have been waiting 5 friggin years for this!

[gasperc]

26. let's crush their farm team in NOV

democrats winning up and down the ticket in NOV will paralyze them for years

[gasperc]

27. NO LET UP AND NO MERCY

:KICK:

[ktowntennesseedem]

31. Still plenty of W stickers here in E Tenn.

A lot of Faux News/Rush Limpballs/James Dobson worshippers around here, so they have yet to hear anything negative about their beloved Pretzelnet, except for third party rants from America-hatin' liberals.

Doesn't matter, though, most folks around here are slow to catch on anyway. A lot of those same cars likely still have 8-track tape players in them. :evilgrin:

[Geek_Girl]

34. Same here in Chattanooga

I'm not sure what it will take to get these people to wake up

[ktowntennesseedem]

37. Yeah, and forget about trying to debate them.

They have their opinions (drilled into their brainwashed little heads), and anyone who thinks otherwise is simply wrong. They refuse to have any kind of meaningful, productive dialog, because they don't want to have to think, they should never have to defend their views (since they are right), and if they ever debated you they might have to --GASP!-- admit they were wrong!

No, all they know how to do is belittle those who disagree, make false accusations against them, call them names, and then walk away mad. I've seen third-graders who could debate better than that!

[Activus]

66. that's interesting

ktowntennesseedem: you do realize that there are those in your own party that do the same thing. I don't vote democrat usually but I do think Bush is a horrible president, as well as oppose the general obedience of the republican party to his and his corporate masters' whims.

People have reasons for not voting the way you do, and it doesn't mean they are brainwashed. For example: I don't vote for democrats because I think they tend to be wimps on foreign policy and a little too connected with big unions and various special interest groups (which are wrecking buffalo where I live). I also don't vote for republicans for the same reasons all of you don't vote for them.

I was at one point a registered republican and have since switched to independent due to my utter loathing of the republican party. The problem is, I don't see the democratic party doing anything different when they are in power, not enough to deserve my vote. Granted the war gives me a reason to vote in SOMEONE that will stop it, but in terms of economic policy the democrats still have their collective heads up their asses.

Whenever I tell this to someone they rattle off condensending facts about what Clinton did etc. like I don't read or know what I'm talking about.

[klook]

71. "in terms of economic policy...

the democrats still have their collective heads up their asses."

Really?? According to that bastion of radical liberal economic thought, Forbes magazine, on the key benchmarks of economic vitality--GDP growth, real disposable personal income, employment, unemployment, inflation, and deficit reduction--the top three performing administrations were those of Democrats (Clinton, Johnson, and Kennedy), while the bottom three were Republicans (Nixon, Eisenhower, and Bush I).

Since they're so "PC," Forbes left out Bush II, although his administration's economic performance is one of the worst in U.S. history.

Sources:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5474580/
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0927-03.htm
(I'm sure it's on the Forbes web site also, but you have to be a subscriber to see it.)

[txaslftist]

77. You should post this independently.

It is very important, IMO.

[klook]

79. OK, I believe I will. Thanks for the idea. (n/t)

[Geek_Girl]

33. Even with Election Engineering

if the polls are showing democrats overwhelm the gop in any race, then they won't be able to hide the cheating so well. The problem is as long as our country remains relatively evenly divided along idealogical lines dems will loose. We need to have a large majority of registered voters supporting democrat ideals and then we can't loose.

[FighttheFuture]

35. Ah... Fair Weather "Friends", where were you when we needed you...

where will you be when we need you in 2006 and 2008?

I won't count my chickens... especially when all the eggs are already in the other basket!

[BlueJac]

36. Good News

Now only if something can be done with it in 2006....then impeach that fucking crook running this country!

[daninthemoon]

39. OK, gotta ask again...Who counted the votes?

[ClickClack]

40. Still seeing those damn stickers around L.A.

I still frequently see "W" and "BushCheney" stickers on cars, which are also often adorned with those idiotic metal doo-dads depicting the walking "Darwin" fish-with-legs being swallowed by a larger legless fish labeled "Truth." These folks are so deeply brainwashed or seriously deluded that you could rub their noses in the mess that Dumbya has made, and they still wouldn't acknowledge it.

[thingsarelookingup]

41. clickclack, Do you notice a particular college license frame

or other isignia on those vehicles with the W signs?

[ClickClack]

73. Sorry for delayed reply. No, I haven't noticed that, but...

...the vehicles in question do sometimes sport license plate frames that seemingly quote biblical verses or say things like, "Read your bible... it's all true!" or something similar. Why, is there a particular college associated with heavy Dumbya fandom?

[Sarah Ibarruri]

42. The most steadfast Republicans are Christian right wing

I'm finding that nowadays ordinary Republicans are no longer doing the degree of chest-banging they were before Katrina hit. Seems to me that the only Republicans I encounter that will defend Bush to their death, are the customarily-delusional right wing Christians. :shrug: They'll forgive Republicans anything and everything.

[ultraist]

47. I'm seeing the same thing.

I'm also seeing a LOT fewer W stickers in my Red area. :bounce:

Welcome to DU, Sarah! :hi:

[dR. O]

45. well

I wouldn't get too excited bc if the dems can't think of any new IDEAS and keep peddling the same old 'pc fascism' they will keep losing

[Pirate Smile]

51. How are you doing? Has FEMA showed up yet? Did they invite

you to Bush's photo op in Mississippi today or put a tail on you to make sure you couldn't get within 20 miles?

Is anyone aware that the Dems managed to kill the phony "bipartisan" whitewash investigation the Republicans were trying to push through Congress?

[electricray]

49. I think we should buy stock in that Gumout product.

Those bumper stickers can be a bear to get off.

[bvar22]

50. I noticed that myself!

I want to add a particular trophy to my collection before the species goes extinct.
The "Slope Headed, DittoBrained, Yellow Bellied ConservoFascist" has been in decline for about 6 months,
but I hadn't realized how endangered this species has become until recently.
They have all but disappeared.

The first warning sign was the rapid disappearance of the "Bush/Cheney" bumper stickers from virtually all the cars/trucks in our area.
Even the once abundant magnetic "Support the Troops" ribbons seem to be fast disappearing.
The often heard phrase, "Damn Straight I voted for bush*!" has been replaced with,
"Well, I've never really been a Republican. I'm more of a Libertarian".

I've became worried.
I don't want the species to completely disappear.
At the very least, I want to be able to take my grandchildren to a protected area and point out a few remaining examples and say,
"See children. This is what happens if you vote Republican".

Since this decline is so rapid, I decided that I should collect a few photographs for the History Books or a Documentary on The Vanishing Conservative.
In pursuit of PhotoTruth, and with respect for Cultural and Social honesty, I want to shoot my specimen in full Foaming at the Mouth, Anti-American, Curse Screaming, Blood Vessel Popping plumage.

I have put out the appropriate bait:



I have my camera on the seat beside me, ready for that quick shot.
I've been driving through the RED suburbs during Rush's broadcast for a couple of weeks.....and NOTHING.

I get waves, smiles, peace signs, and "OK" gestures from many drivers, but not ONE SINGLE NEGATIVE GESTURE or COMMENT!
A couple of times, an SUV has pulled up quickly alongside. In eager anticipation, I grabbed my camera and had it ready,
but the driver gives me a quick glance and then slinks off.


What am I doing wrong?


The Democratic Party is a BIG TENT, but there is NO ROOM for those who advance the agenda of THE RICH (Corporate Owners)
at the EXPENSE of LABOR and the POOR.

[Laurab]

54. Hey, Great stickers, maybe it's the timing?

Maybe you shouldn't do it during Rush's broadcast? They're probably all otherwise occupied at that time, since I'm not sure they are able to multi-task. I mean it's possible they don't want to miss one single word, as they might miss one of the many jewels of "wisdom" the drug addled idiot spits out. Try it AFTER the broadcast maybe?

Then again, you seem like a nice person, so maybe you shouldn't. I think many of the blind shrub backers are as certifiably insane as he is, and we've seen how much damage just one can do. Stay safe....those people SCARE me.

[Independent_Liberal]

55. This is good to know.

I have a feeling we're going to kick some Republican ass in the '06 elections.

[FreedomAngel82]

56. I don't see many Bush stickers either

and I live on the conservative side of the date. When I went a few weeks ago (a week before the hurricane) to the Gulf Shores with my family I saw maybe a handful of Bush stickers. Heh heh. But I think the problem is in a lot of areas there are voting machine's and people have to also go out and vote!! I also think we're going to be seeing them go more left as we've seen a little bit of. *Sigh* Hopefully all these people will go out and vote next year!

[Renew Deal]

64. Good. Now lets make these voters proud.

Let's take care of these people. Lets show them we aren't there to sit on our hands.

[ladylibertee]

65. Yeah...So that explains the subtle attack on Nagin, Edwards and Kerry

[DirtyDawg]

68. About as useful...

...as exit polls.

[drone]

70. Waking up

Maybe after 5 years some folks are discovering that the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow is not there. Time either produces satisfactory result or it does not.

[theloneranger]

80. we will see

next election