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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 08:58 AM
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New frame. Scottie: "As you and I know..."
New repug framing technique: When you're trying for a 180 degree reverse spin, preface your remarks with the phrase "As you and I know". Thus you implicitly claim that both yourself and the questioner agree on something that in reality (what's that?) you absolutely do NOT agree on.

White House daily press briefing
September 22, 2005

Q He didn't pick up the guitar while the hurricane was rolling into Louisiana?

MR. McCLELLAN: -- much more than that. The person that was entertaining our troops there presented a gift to the President. So I think you need to make that clear to everybody who's watching this or to your viewers. And it was one of your colleagues at ABC News who was backstage taking a picture of that.

Q It was a very good picture and I'm proud of her, but the question I have --

MR. McCLELLAN: Yes, but that picture was taken by someone -- hang on, hang on, Terry -- that picture was taken by some people way out of context. And it was portrayed that the President was simply doing that, and that's not the case, as you and I know.

Q The point was that he was over there and not --

MR. McCLELLAN: As you and I know, I had announced shortly before that, that we were returning the next morning. As you and I know, we had announced the President -- the day before -- all the briefings he was participating in. The President spoke the day before. He spoke that day about the hurricane. So let's just set the record straight.
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001179277
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electron_blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 09:30 AM
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1. Ah, someone's been reading his psych books
weak, weak
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 09:38 AM
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2. Hardly new, you know?
Although he does use it more than he should, doesn't he?

It's a reformulated tag question: tag questions aren't very formal.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 10:30 AM
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3. hardly new...but always worth emphasizing his abuse of this rhetorical
device....

If only the Media had the guts to call him on it.
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obreaslan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 02:12 PM
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4. Well Scottie, as you and I know....
You are always lying, never telling the truth, and always covering yours and you evil overlord's asses! :grr:


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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 02:20 PM
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5. Exactly...
... and another great Ian Andersonism follows:
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 03:53 PM
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6. Down, Scottie. Good dog. Now eat your biscuit. Scottie sounds a mite
TESTY dontcha think?
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