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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 07:41 PM
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Let Justice Be Done...
Edited on Sat Sep-24-05 07:41 PM by Steely_Dan
"Let justice be done, though the heavens fall."
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 07:54 PM
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1. No Justice no peace. n/t
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 08:07 PM
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2. No Bush Know Peace
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 08:46 PM
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3. Let Justice Be Done Though the heavens fall!
http://faculty.law.ubc.ca/Pue/historybook/school06a.html


FIAT JUSTITIA, RUAT COELUM. "Let justice be done though the heavens fall"—these words were powerfully invoked by Lord Mansfield in 1772 as he freed the slave whose fate was at issue in Sommersett’s case.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 08:48 PM
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4. Lord Mansfield on true liberty and equal justice
"True liberty can exist only when justice is equally administered to all"

Lord Mansfield
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 08:50 PM
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5. Lord Mansfield on conscience
"I will not do that which my conscience tells me is wrong to gain the huzzahs of thousands, or the daily praise of all the papers which come from the press; I will not avoid doing what I think is right, though it should draw on me the whole artillery"

Lord Mansfield
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 08:51 PM
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6. Albert Einstein on conscience
"Never do anything against conscience, even if the state demands it"
Albert Einstein
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 03:53 PM
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15. NO JUSTICE NO PEACE! NO JUSTICE NO PEACE! n/t
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 09:15 PM
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7. Nice Posts...and...
..here I thought I was just quoting a movie (JFK).

-Paige
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 03:42 AM
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14. Ahh, but it's a great film - JFK I just read here at DU something
about Nixon being in Dallas the day Kennedy was shot.

I love that part in JFK when they are in court and Costner's character says something about statistics can tell you that an elephant can hang by its tail from a cliff but common sense tells you otherwise (something like that).

The Warren Commission like the 9-11 Commission was HOOEY, HOGWASH...each of them sold the public a lemon.

If a group of insiders, possibly, probably in government can murder a president...what have they done since then?
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 04:10 PM
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16. I believe it was "physics in a nuclear laboratory", not "statistics".
I just happenned to catch that part of the movie surfing the channels last night. The analogy of the elephant hanging by its tail off a cliff certainly fits though. That's far more probable than the so called "magic bullet" theory.

I've seen "computer simulations" of how Oswald supposedly could have pulled this off, and the Seinfeld magic loogie theory made far more sense. Even more ridiculous are the same people making computerized models of Sirhan Sirhan managing to shoot RFK point blank behind his right ear despite the fact that Sirhan was standing in front of Bobby the entire time.

I wonder if Arlen Spector will come clean about what he knows before he dies? I'm not sure of the exact status of his health, but the man certainly doesn't look like he's winning the battle with cancer.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 05:51 PM
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21. Hey thanks for that info. I didn't think I had it quite right. n/t
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 09:46 PM
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8. Justice is one of those wonderful nearly dead words.
Language changes, sometimes slowly, and sometimes lightning fast, as with the BushCo regime.

Words which are either dead, or dying:

Justice
Accountability
Responsibility
Consideration
Conduct
Selflessness

That's just off the top of my head.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 11:10 PM
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9. But let justice roll down like waters
and righteousness like an everflowing stream.

Hosea 5:24

And I'm watching JFK, too. Not exactly the most historically accurate movie ever made, but quite a good movie nevertheless.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 03:36 AM
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12. What a beautiful Bible verse. Thanks for sharing. n/t
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Hidden Stillness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 11:39 PM
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10. Justice and Truth
A little different, but related. Johannes Eckhart, Dominican Catholic monk, 1260-1327 (about), from page 240 of the book "Meister Eckhart," by Raymond Blakney:

"What is truth? Truth is something so noble that if God could turn aside from it, I could keep to the truth and let God go."

Of course, that would never be, as it would then just make God a figurehead or story, apart from the most real real, which would then exist separately, somehow. That is a favorite quote of mine, "...keep to the truth and let God go." That is God telling you that.
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 02:11 AM
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11. Wonderful
I love that quote...It will be with me always.

-Paige
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 03:38 AM
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13. Meister Eckhart...read about him in college philosophy...
good quote - thanks for sharing.
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 05:26 PM
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17. I had to weigh in...
love it that you are discussing one of my most favorite (and IMO most powerful) words!!!

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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 12:03 AM
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19. Justice....
It is one of my favorite words as well...

I think the quote, which I took from the film "JFK," is very powerful.

-P
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 05:48 PM
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20. Indeed it is powerful. I can see Costner's character saying it still.
Edited on Mon Sep-26-05 05:49 PM by texpatriot2004
"Let justice be done though the heavens fall."

I also remember this one:

"A man may smile and smile yet be a villain."

Check this link out -

http://www.robertsilvey.com/notes/2004/10/smile_and_smile.html

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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 10:26 PM
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18. Kick!
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