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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 01:40 PM
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Anybody think Fitz is waiting too long?
Edited on Mon Sep-26-05 01:44 PM by woodsprite
I mean, he better do something fast or we're gonna all find ourselves looking down the barrels of our own military under martial law and no one will enforce any indictments against them. I don't think we can wait much longer. If * can get this stuff thru fast, we ain't seen nothing yet. Maybe Cheney will kick off, indictments will come down, etc. and it will pull us out of this tailspin.

Just wondering if anybody else is feeling the same way. I take a 5 min. break every hour, hit reload and read DU. Needless to say, the one thing I'm really looking for is that our Freedom from King George is on the march.

Edited to say "from" instead of "for" -- whoa! whole other meaning.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 01:42 PM
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1. Yeah, it's making me nervous, too. I mean, it's one thing to play
your cards close to the vest, but Jezuz! What is he waiting for?
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 01:43 PM
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2. I think you are addicted and need more extended breaks.
I think you are over-reacting.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 01:44 PM
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3. Not really; from my understanding,
this was supposed to be completed by October; we're not there yet, though it is nervewracking!
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 01:46 PM
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4. That stuff about DOD taking over automatically. THAT is what
has me so concerned. Being a web developer, not doing Java is my break ;)
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 01:50 PM
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10. I don't think that can just be done by them without
a consensus. Also, FWIW, I heard that rightwing Bushbot Monica Crowley talking about this today on Coast to Coast, and she didn't even think it'd be a good idea, so perhaps this is one issue we can all agree on.
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 01:53 PM
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12. Time is on their side
Look, the smart thing to do is wait until the last minute to indict. Obviously, the pendulum is swinging against the Bush crime family. Fitz doesn't want to take a chance, and rush into his case when he can wait a few more weeks. Every day that goes by turns up new allegations of corruption and cronyism and thus new leads; new pieces of the jigsaw puzzle of corruption.

I mean Katrina has forced the press to turn the lights on so the public can see the f..n miserable cockroaches scurry for cover. If I was Fitz, I would be watching the cockroaches for any leads.
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 01:57 PM
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13. That's true - days ago Frist thought 'blind trust'
meant that you're investments were "blind" from scruitiny by the public.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 01:46 PM
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5. Bush and Rove knew this was coming.
They've had enough time to tie the loose ends.
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 01:48 PM
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8. There's always that tickling little feeling in the back of my brain
that I don't totally trust Fitz. Maybe I'll be proven wrong. GAWD! I hope so. I'm tired of being on this roller coaster the last 5 years. It just seems to be accelerating and going totally out of control. You want to whop people upside the head when they just can't SEE it.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:54 AM
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23. Irrelevant.
They've had enough time to tie the loose ends.

Spin and lies don't generally work in a court of law. Usually you have to have some substance. The classic Repug spin won't work.
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Field Of Dreams Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 01:46 PM
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6. The man is doing his job as he sees fit...
He's known for thoroughness ... I can't fault him for that. It will end when he thinks he's finished. I wish it was sooner rather than later too.
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 01:49 PM
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9. Prayers for Fitz !
O8)

I feel, at times, that he's our last hope!
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 01:47 PM
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7. Unfortunately, I'm with you.
Just perusing DU to see if their is anything on Fitzgerald.

If we're anxious, I wonder how Bush and Rove are feeling?
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 01:52 PM
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11. He's thorough, he hates losing with a passion, he's doing it right
...and he's driving them nuts. They want to fire him, you just know that they do. They can't stand it. They probably have a mole in place and he's probably spotted it and is feeding them confusing information.

He hates to lose. Unless he's compromised, the extended delay by ourperception is really hard work finalizing everything.

I could be wrong but I think that he's making sure he has everything in place. I also suspect that he has real reasons for citing Miller for contempt but he's probably not relying on her cracking. That notion was discounted long ago.

Should be fascinating and, hopefully, mindblowing!
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 02:04 PM
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16. Totally agree. Remember, this is a guy who went after the Mafia
in Chicago - he's not afraid of anyone.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:08 AM
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21. And even scarier... going after the Daley Machine. Chicago is the "bigs."
Extremely tough and smart town for politics. I really liked Mayor Washington. After his sudden death, his fiercest political opponent was interviewed on television. With full candor, he said "My God, he worked so hard, he had it all, and then he died." His name was Vrodoliac or something like that. He and Washington went head to head on everything but the guy stopped, stepped out of his partisan stance, and spoke with awe of Washington for his skilled acquisition of power.

Of course, Fitzgerald went in there after being born and raised in NYC, which has a rep for producing people who know how to take care of themselves and business when the need or opportunity arises.

Please Fitz, indict all of the bums from the top down.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:22 AM
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22. From the Chicago Trib, September 2003:
Edited on Tue Sep-27-05 12:23 AM by Tatiana
<snip>

Think back to how the media treated the late Mayor Harold Washington, when Washington's buddies were involved in contract scandals. Back then, even minor stories about corruption got sustained media attention, particularly from TV and radio, even if the dollar amounts were only chump change. Washington faced constant media pressure on corruption issues. TV crawled all over him for years.

"If I was white, you wouldn't be doing this to me," Washington said once, in a private moment, as he filched a smoke from me and we stood in a parking lot after a campaign stop. We argued about it, and I told him that since we were off the record, he didn't have to play the race card. "You don't know anything, do you?" he said. He was right. I was a kid, then. I didn't know.

But when the Duff stories first broke, involving a white mayor and white guys getting rich, the Chicago media scrutiny wasn't as intense. TV news didn't hound Daley the way it hounded Washington. The mayor must appreciate the kindness.

I'm sure he also appreciates the new federal prosecutor, Patrick Fitzgerald. The feds have already outflanked former Gov. George Ryan's Republicans. Ryan himself is a target. And now the feds are moving toward Daley's Democratic City Hall.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/chi-0309280487sep28,1,2742113.column?coll=chi-news-col
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 02:49 AM
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24. Tatiana, You are too kind. This is great stuff n/t
I suspect lots of people hated Washington because he was better at the game than they could hope to be...very bright guy. I remember enjoying watching him interviewed. He was "larger than life" with a sense of humor. Thanks. Great read.
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 07:20 AM
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26. MAYBE THIS TIME THE OCT. SURPRISE will be on bush
IF anyone ever in history DESERVES their negative KARMA to catch them..its family bush

HI AUTORANK

Beneath every bush is dirt
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wtbymark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 01:57 PM
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14. hmmmm, I heard
this is rumor, take it for what it is; a rumor

BUT

I heard that he handed down a slew of indictments and that a judge magistrate in Chicago is holding them. And I hear that it's not the end of the indictments and that Renquist was one of them - goes back to poppy and maybe also involves Clinton.

So yea, I damn curious as to what unfolds.
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 01:59 PM
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15. Hmmm - would that judge be holding them for a good reason,
or would he be trying to delay the indictments and screw the investigation?
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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 03:30 PM
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18. That came from Tom Flood, it has been debunked unfortunately
:crazy:
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 03:20 PM
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17. I read on DU an interesting take on this...
Edited on Mon Sep-26-05 03:21 PM by Lochloosa
He will wait till there are only a few weeks left of the Grand Jury. Why? To give time to those notified of their indictment to go back before the Grand Jury and tell the truth.

I tend to agree with this assessment.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 03:36 PM
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19. I just thought it was awfully premature to cast him as some heroic figure
with cutesy nicknames... we know next to nothing about this guy other than a few media puff pieces. Perhaps we should see some results before bowing down before him.

I've shared the lingering suspicion...
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 03:47 PM
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20. Given EVERY Break Of The Law That These People Have Gotten Away With...
I'm really afraid to HOPE for anything! The outcome is all too PREDICTABLE.

We Lose! But the fight must go on!

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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:46 AM
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25. He's finishing the job.
From what I've read, he's a thorough little bugger and also that the net has widened. I've also read that the WH is nervous. But the Rs have backed off trashing him, although they've got plenty on their plate currently. I've also read the GJ may be expanded in scope and duration. So who the hell knows other than this current GJ expires in October.
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