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ladylibertee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:07 AM
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Poll question: De Lay Indictment : politically motivated?
Fmr.White House Majority Leader, Tom DeLay responded to being indicted on criminal campaign conspiracy charges by dismissing the severity of this accusation as a mere political vendetta being exercised against him by democrats.

Question: Do you feel the indictment is politically motivated?
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:10 AM
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1. He should have known better....
People who live in glass houses....Should launder their money in the basement.

Too bad for him, he deserves it.
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ladylibertee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:11 AM
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2. Interesting
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:13 AM
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3. I think DeLay's criminality motivates his politics. nt
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:58 AM
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16. Off-topic....
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 02:49 AM
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21. thanks. at first i thought you were calling my post off-topic!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:16 AM
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4. This is not the right board for this poll.Why is it here?
Edited on Thu Sep-29-05 01:18 AM by aquart
Rightwing propaganda is better suited to other places on the internet.
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ladylibertee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:18 AM
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5. What do mean? Where should it be ?
Edited on Thu Sep-29-05 01:25 AM by ladylibertee
Edited to add? EXCUSE ME? I think I am by FAR THE most Liberal person alive.Put us all in a line and I'm so far left,I'm the last one.I ask questions to see if others opinions are close to mine.I have also WORKED in polling and I know how to create an unbiased poll.Who knows, maybe we can weed out the real FREEPERS.So, anyway, chill out!:eyes: :kick: :kick: :kick:
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Lone_Wolf_Moderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:20 AM
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6. Honestly, I'm not sure. Not that it matters.
The only evidence we have that it's "a political witchunt" is basically DeLay saying so. Sure, Ronnie Earle is a Dem, but so what? Did it bother Tom DeLay that Ken Starr was a Repub during the Impeachment mess? I don't have enough evidence to jusge Earle's intentions, so I'll vote no.
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ladylibertee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:29 AM
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9. I agree. I got a little upset when he pretty much put us into it by
saying things like " If you democrats thought you could divide us, you bla bla" I mean, last time I checked , it was a Texas prosecutor, not the entire party who indicted him.I think he is just playing the "accuse the accuser game"
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:28 AM
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7. charge
I think the charge (illegally funding money to TX state legislature candidates to facilitate shameless gerrymandering of House congressional districts, which enabled the repukes to take control) is so heinous and well-documented that the indictment should come as no surprise but to those who depend on MSM news. I understand that it is but one of many charges that will be tried in other venues.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:28 AM
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8. He's a criminal, slimy piece of shit who finally got caught.
What the Hell does "politics" have to do with it?
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:30 AM
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10. I think the reason he was indicted was because Satan got mad
that DeLay was...well I best not say but remember Bill Hicks and Suckers of You Know What?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:32 AM
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12. And all of this time I thought....
That DeLay WAS Satan!

(Where's Swamp Rat when you need him?)
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:43 AM
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14. Nah...Saddam was surplanted by DeLay after the South Park
movie.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 03:50 AM
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23. Oh yeah.....I remember now!
LOL!

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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:32 AM
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11. At least I hope
it is justice at work. I hope justice still survives in the US of A.
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ladylibertee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 02:08 AM
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33. We will find out soon
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:39 AM
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13. Delay's crime was criminally motivated. The prosecutor has
indicted and convicted the democratic Speaker of the Texas State House, The Democratic State Treasurer, a Democratic State Supreme Court judge and other Democrats.

In fact he's prosecuted 9 Democratic office holders and 3 Republican office holders during his career.

I don't see the prosecutor as motivated by anything other than putting perps away.
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ladylibertee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:52 AM
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15. Thank You.I originally wanted to add these important facts, but I
also wanted to keep it as short as possible.Theres many facts that easily dispute De Lay's claim that he is being "attacked":nopity: by our party.The purpose of the poll is to basically show that we are not buying into it.:kick:
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 02:05 AM
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17. He's a freaking criminal. LOL
POLITICAL motivation. Gimme a break.

The only political motivation I've seen is the fact that this guy wasn't indicted years ago.
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ladylibertee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 02:15 AM
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19. Thank You.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 02:15 AM
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18. Do not even have this debate, for the love of god
That's how they always win. WE help them spread their talking points. How many times does this have to be gone over. Don't repeat their talking points, EVER.
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ladylibertee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 02:29 AM
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20. Sandnsea, put aside the paranoia for a moment.Why do you have
Edited on Thu Sep-29-05 02:33 AM by ladylibertee
so little faith in our Democratic political strategist? There is NO "ammo" here for the retards.If anything,the best political strategy is INSTANT REBUTTAL.When we sit there unresponsive to allegations that are not true, no matter how idiotic and unfounded they are,by not offering a rebuttal, we are conceding to the allegation.When we CONFRONT it and REBUT it,then it shows we are resolved in where we stand.Our party keeping it's mouth shut is what has been the problem.If we sit here and let De Lay tell the nation we are out to get him without our challenge, the media will fly on just the allegation.Do you see my point?

Edited to add: Look at the results so far.They are in NO WAY help to the enemy.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 03:09 AM
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22. Been there, FAILED with that
Get in their ring and fight their fight, and lose. How many times do we have to do this before people get it through their heads. You want to win on Delay, you talk about what he's been charged with, that Ellis is connected to Blunt, use Culture of Corruption, push OUR talking points. NOT theirs. I cannot begin to tell you how many times WE have lost focus on a Dem issue because WE have let them make the debate about THEIR talking points. And after it's all said and done, along come the lefties who wanted the fight in the first place, and blame the DLC Dems for not framing the debate. :banghead:

NO NO NO. If I could delete every single post about "partisan Earle", I'd do it in a nanosecond.
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ladylibertee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 04:15 AM
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24. Relax.... I cannot give you details, but I can tell you that I know for
a fact that we have something here and the more the Republicans try to fight it,they themselves will show how guilty they really are.We have to "bait" them.Certain so called "talking points" draws them out of the darkness like roaches scurrying about.You watch,this time, they will turn on each other like a bunch of high school cheerleaders trying to get nominated for Homecoming Queen.:evilgrin:
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 04:26 AM
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25. I woke my son up screaming in delight when I read it on-line.
There was a resounding "hooray" across the country today. How can anyone say political motivation had nothing to do with it? Nothing wrong with that. It's just an extra added bonus since the guy's GUILTY. Of course it's justice. A long overdue, righteous, reckoning kind of justice. But the collective political orgasm it produced cannot be denied. Or faked.
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ladylibertee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 04:34 AM
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26. That was very honest...and somewhat brave.Thank You
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ladylibertee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 05:39 AM
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27. .
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 06:24 AM
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28. all I can say is, we BETTER have a fucking political vendetta against him
you'd think they'd actually try and bring down this fucker. If not, lets get some people who will.
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_Winston_Smith_101 Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 10:05 AM
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35. De Lay has to go down!
The Republicans won't dare replace him with a harder right conservative.

The message has been sent!

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ladylibertee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 06:59 AM
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29. Keep up the good work.Every vote counts.see yall later
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 07:02 AM
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30. Yeah,its that HUGE left wing CONSPIRACY!!!
Funny how the Repukes fall back on that after chastising Clinton for a decade. How typical.....

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formernaderite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:21 AM
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31. All I can say , is this better pay off for us....
because at the moment I think it's both...politically motivated and justice. I hope I'm right on both fronts frankly.
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ladylibertee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:47 AM
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32. keep voting peoples
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GayCanuck Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:22 AM
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34. Gee
Edited on Fri Sep-30-05 08:23 AM by GayCanuck
money and politics; I'm shocked, shocked I tell you.
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ladylibertee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 01:22 AM
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36. News Week STOLE MY POLL !!!!!!
Edited on Mon Oct-03-05 01:29 AM by ladylibertee
Newsweek
Live Vote
Do you think Tom DeLay's indictment is politically motivated? * 17501 responses


Yes
20%

No
76%

I don't know
3%

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