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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:42 AM
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Karen Hughes Faces Female Wrath in Turkey ("war for the sake of peace")


Facing a second critical reception on her Middle East tour after a similar encounter in Saudi Arabia, Turkish women activists Wednesday, September 29, grilled the US envoy over the US-led invasion of Iraq and the deteriorating situation in the occupied Palestinian territories, Agence France Presse (AFP) reported.

"You cannot bring in war for the sake of peace. The United States cannot interfere in the democracy problem and solve it through war," Feray Sazman, a women's rights leader, told Hughes during a meeting in an Ankara museum.

Hughes was in Turkey on the last leg of a regional tour aimed at improving Washington's bad image, which has already taken her to Egypt and Saudi Arabia.

Human rights leader Hidayet Sefkatli Tuksal added that she saw fear in the eyes of women and children in photographs from Iraq every day and it left her feeling "wounded and insulted". "This war is really, really bringing all your positive efforts to the level of zero," she said. "War makes the rights of women completely erased and poverty comes after war and women pay the cost," stressed Fatma Nevin Vargun, a Kurdish activist.

On Tuesday, Hughes was grilled by Saudi women, who blamed the US media for portraying Muslims as terrorists and Arab women as downtrodden. "Why is the general image of the Arab woman that she isn't very happy? We are happy," one young student had said during the encounter.

http://www.islamonline.org/English/News/2005-09/29/article02.shtml



US special envoy Karen Hughes, seen here adressing Turkish students on 28 September, met the head of the Orthodox Church, Patriarch Bartholomew I, at the end of a three-country regional tour, sources from her delegation said(AFP/Mustafa Ozer)
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:44 AM
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1. One question - Who's the guy holding the mic in the picture?
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:45 AM
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2. These people are so much smarter than Americans.
At least they can see her for what she is. Maybe Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia need Fox News to educate them.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:47 AM
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3. Why can everyone but Americans see through the "War is Peace" lie?
Edited on Thu Sep-29-05 11:49 AM by Sandpiper
It's so frustrating!


:grr:
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:48 AM
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4. Propaganda tools for media and no real spending on
education for the masses.

It's the Republican way.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:42 PM
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9. but lots of $$ going to her and her new program/dept.
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:52 AM
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5. She's been hurting the U.S. image abroad.
This whole tour has been a disaster. The White House could have done better but nnnnooooo!!!!
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:01 PM
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6. So now the question is: Given that, when will they give her a new job?
Will they keep sending her out until we run out of nations to alienate (we may already be PAST that point)...

I know how this works in corporate America (I saw it on a regular basis when I worked at Cisco Systems a few years ago)...someone who is in tight with management screws up, screws up, screws up...and in order for them (and management) to "save face," they are MIRACULOUSLY needed on a new, "critical" project.

The people who aren't in the inner circle just get bounced. People like Hughes, with their nose firmly planted in the corporate tailpipe, keep being "needed" on "new projects."

:evilgrin:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:41 PM
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8. yup a promotion is indeed in order
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:27 PM
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7. Hughes meets actual muslim democracy, gets earful,
goes back to DC and says that this democracy thing really sucks, glad to be back in US where people know their place.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:43 PM
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10. "War is peace" not selling abroad eh?
Edited on Thu Sep-29-05 01:08 PM by JNelson6563
Well they just need a couple of decades of conditioning.

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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:17 PM
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11. if Satan had a sister, she would look like her
Ugh!

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