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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 09:40 AM
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Folks, you MUST READ THIS...
I apologize for not just copying body of the post, I didn't know how to just get the pertinent info...but...I believe it deserves a read from all who attended the peace march on 9/24/05...Trying not to be an alarmist...but when the CDC says hospitals nationwide have been alerted..it seems to me...you should know...debunkers, I would be ever so grateful if you can rule this out...otherwise, anyone who was at the peace march in DC, pay attention to your health...windbreeze

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Clark08/message/8059


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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 09:42 AM
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1. Have to join yahoo to get there. Is this on the tularemia thing? n/t
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 09:45 AM
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6. Yes....
sorry,I apologize, I didn't realize you couldn't just get to the post...
windbreeze
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 09:42 AM
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2. Not "joining" to find out.
Learn to copy and paste, summarize, etc., but I'm not joining the group.
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teach1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 09:42 AM
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3. Discussed here:
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 09:48 AM
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9. Thank you so much...
for posting this link, everyone...this IS what it's about...and again I apologize...Tulermia....found in DC...on 9/24/05.....anyone who was at the protests should watch their health...
windbreeze
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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 09:43 AM
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4. It wont let me read it!
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 09:44 AM
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5. I did not read the article but heard the story this morning on CSPAN
I thought it was disturbing. I am going to try to come back later and read the article, but being somewhat cynical about tacit messages our government sometimes sends, I could not help but wonder ....

The CSPAN broadcast said no outbreaks have been reported but people participating should be aware.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 09:46 AM
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7. So, who released this bio-agent?
What's the additional spin so far?

Is the government trying to pin this on an anti-war, unpatriotic "terrorist" who released this stuff into the air?

Or...do most people believe that the govt did this to the protesters?

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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 09:47 AM
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8. It won't let me see this. I first had to join yahoo, which I did,
but then it said I was not a member of Clark 2008
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 09:54 AM
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10. Copying and Pasting 101
Method 1:

1) Highlight the text you wish to copy.
2) Right-click your mouse.
3) On the menu that pops up, choose "copy:
4) Click on the area where you wish to paste.
5) Right-click you mouse.
6) Choose "paste."
7) If the text is copyrighted, you may only post four paragraphs here at DU.

Method 2.

1) Highlight the text you wish to copy.
2) Hold down CTRL+C to copy
3) Click on the area where you wish to paste.
4) Hold down CTRL+V to paste
5) If the text is copyrighted, you may only post four paragraphs here at DU.
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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 10:18 AM
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13. Ladyhawk, kudos for the explanation of "how" to
copy and paste. So much nicer to see then snide criticisms and nasty remarks.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 11:12 AM
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17. The anonymity of the Internet fosters rudeness and downright hostility
we probably wouldn't see in real life. I'm sure we've all fallen to the temptation to be less than we can be. I know I have.

I've often wondered if the Internet shows human nature for what it really is or if the Internet warps folks who would normally be good citizens. Maybe it's a bit of both. :shrug:
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 02:08 PM
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18. Yep, and that goes back to UUCP/UseNet days...
pre-WWW

-Hoot
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 10:13 AM
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11. here's the post
Sorry about the problems...and wasn't trying to get anyone to join yahoo, or their groups...didn't realize it had been discussed previously...I just thought people should know...now hope I don't get in trouble with DU for this long post...
windbreeze...

Folks: Joseph Waymack has been a leader in getting voting procedure
reform here in NC--he is not a nut, nor an alarmist

FORWARD TO ALL PEOPLE/LISTSERVES

I was just notified by a contact with the Center for Disease Control
that a biological agent was released in DC on 9/24/05 during the
anti-war demonstrations. About a hour ago the CDC released an urgent
alert to all hospitals accross the nation. Here are the details:

Symptoms: Coughing, shortness of breath, chest pain, swelling of lymph
nodes (although this may not occur for a while), and swelling around the
eyes (although this symptom may not be present).

The agent was picked up by DC's chemical/biological weapon filters
deployed around the city but was not identified until a few hours ago.

Symptoms may not occur until October 5th: After that date if you have
no symptoms you are in the clear.

If you have any of the symptoms that have developed since Saturday and
occur before October 5th, you need to go the Emergency room and inform
them you have possible exposure to an inhalant form of Tulerima.
Because it is a bacteria based agent-it can be treated.

It is not transmittable from person to person, so this only applies to
those who were actually in DC on Saturday September 24, 2005. If you
have been around someone who went, you are NOT at risk.

Tulerima is a bacterial agent that up until not was only found in
hunters who specifically hunted rabbits. The bacteria is carried by
ticks that live in the rabbits fur. However, there had been some
concern for a while that it could be transformed into a biological agent
and apperently that has come true. It was released in an inhalant form.

<snip>
==============================================

Fwd: UPDATE: Biological Agent-DC 9/24/05]

I have spoke with another source at the CDC. They have confirmed the
situation. I have updated list of symptoms and information as well as
the area it showed up in and the time frame of exposure. Health
officials are downplaying the risk but advise if anyone has the symptoms
to seek treatment immediately:

The agent Tularemia (that is the proper spelling) was detected in the
mall area of DC between the US Capital and the Lincoln Memorial (this is
per the Washington Post). Anyone in this area between 10am 9/24 and
10am 9/25 may have been exposed to low levels of the deadly bacteria.

The symptoms include: (per the CDC)
Headaches
Sudden Fever
Chills
Muscle and joint pain
increasing weakness
dry cough
swollen or painful lymph nodes
swelling around the eyes
ulcers on the skin or mouth
sour throat
trouble breathing or respiratory arrest
it can develop into pnemonia (bloody flem in that case) over time

Symptoms normally occur within 3-5 days of exposure but could occur all
the way up to 14. The CDC has advised October 5th as the day by which
if you have not developed symptoms you are in the clear and do not need
to be concerned.

It is not known to be transmittable from person to person, only through
direct exposure to the agent itself.

It is confirmed through blood or flem samples through laboratory tests
which may take up to 48 hours. In some cases it may be treated before
results are known.

It is treated through antibiotics, specifically tetrocycaline (may not
be spelled right).

Please be on the lookout for the symptoms and seek medical treatment if
you have them.
<snip>
==============================================



Here is the article the Washington Post has picked up about this
situation and information from the CDC on Tulameria. More than six
sensors in DC picked up the biological agent and only on the day we were
all there for the anti-war demonstration. This raises many questions
and we need a solid investigation into this incident.

From the Washington Post:

Biohazard Sensors Triggered

Mall Germ Levels Likely Not a Threat

By Martin Weil and Susan Levine

Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, October 1, 2005; Page B01

<snip>

Health authorities in the Washington area were notified yesterday that
the bacteria were found in and near the area between the U.S. Capitol
and the Lincoln Memorial, where crowds gathered Saturday for an antiwar
rally and a book festival. The notification, which came from federal
health officials, said that after the initial detection, subsequent
tests "supported the presence of low levels" of the bacteria. However,
officials also said they did not believe the findings posed a health
problem.
<snip>

Health officials said the usual incubation period for tularemia is less
than a week.
<snip>

Symptoms include fever, chills, headache, muscle ache, joint pain, dry
cough and conjunctivitis.
<snip>

But he said it was puzzling that the finding was from a day when the
Mall was packed with people.

"Why that day? That's what is not explained," Pane said. "It was just
this 24-hour period and none since."
<snip>

Tularemia is not spread from person to person. It can be contracted by
direct contact with the bacteria that cause it -- by swallowing them or,
if they have been suspended in air, through inhalation.

The germ that causes tularemia is considered a biohazard because it is
highly infectious and was tested in the 1960s by the United States as a
biological weapon. The disease is treatable with antibiotics but, if
left untreated, can be fatal. <snip>

More than a half-dozen sensors operating from 10 a.m. Saturday to 10
a.m. Sunday -- at sites including the Lincoln Memorial, Fort McNair and
Judiciary Square -- detected the bacteria, Pane said he was told.

He said the CDC expected to notify hospitals nationwide as a precaution
because so many people came from out of town to the Mall last weekend.

<snip>

Authorities recommend that people who visited the Mall between 10 a.m.
Sept. 24 and 10 a.m. Sept. 25 should see a physician if they experience
symptoms.






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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 10:16 AM
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12. can you make your subject line more descriptive (other than "Folks Read')
I think this post will get more traffic if it is more specific, and I think it should
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 10:49 AM
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15. tried to edit
but the time frame for editing has expired? my humble apologies to anyone my messing up with copying/pasting caused...I didn't realize that an url to a yahoo group, wouldn't allow people to read unless they joined...I corrected that further down the thread...and as an aside...no wonder * was out of DC last week-end..and didn't we hear people say there were helicopters flying over them?
windbreeze
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 10:22 AM
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14. Danger Will Robertson Danger
I guess that's one more trick to try to get people to stop protesting. Too bad it won't work.

I was in DC last weekend and I really don't give a shit.

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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 10:59 AM
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16. Low level in filters could be planted to scare people away from protests
Army was doing ultra secret stuff two days before the march.
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