Planned Parenthood backs GOP over pro-choice Dems BOYCOTT

[genius]

Call PPA and tell them what you think. Then tell them they have received their last penny from you. This is serious. The big newspaper in the 48th Congressional District (OC, CA), the Register feels that liberal Democrat Steve Young could easily pull off a victory because of the entry into the race of Minute Man Founder Gilchrist as an American Independent. One of the more conservative cities in the 48th (Irvine) has a Democratic mayor and a Democratic majority on the City Council. So why would PPA back a right-wing Republican (and she is in most respects) against three pro-choice Democrats and send out misleading letters, discounting the fact that all the Democrats are pro-choice? PPA needs to answer for this. Steve Young, Bea Foster and Tom Pallow all deserve an apology and the endorsement of PPA. If not, we need to cut PPA off from Democratic funds. I've donated to them but NEVER again.

Here is an emailer that was forwarded to me.

This is what they are sending to Democratic votes to try to trick them into going Republican.

From: Planned Parenthood of Orange and San Bernardino
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 17:41

Subject: Vote Pro-Choice -- Vote Marilyn Brewer!






Tomorrow, October 4th, is Election Day in your Congressional District, and Planned Parenthood of Orange County has endorsed Marilyn Brewer for Congress.

Whether you are a registered Democrat, Republican, or Decline to State, you can vote for Marilyn Brewer in this open primary.

Marilyn has a proven track record as an advocate of women’s rights.

She had a 100% pro-choice voting record in the California Assembly. We need another pro-choice vote in the U.S. Congress.

Please VOTE PRO-CHOICE and VOTE FOR MARILYN BREWER tomorrow, Tuesday, October 4th.

Vote for Choice – Vote Marilyn Brewer!

[DawnneOBTS]

1. Are you sure that this is genuine?

It sounds like a trick to me. Like, when you get e-mails from eBaY or PayPal asking for your personal information, but it turns out it is not from them, but from a really good hacker/thief? It sounds the same to me. Repugs will stop at nothing, remember.

[genius]

2. He forwarded the actual PPA note to me and it certainly looks genuine.

I think they only care about one issue and they don't care that Brewer is right-wing on the other issues. They apparently are placing their money on the GOP, as long as the GOP backs their one issue.

[DaveColorado]

3. Robert Kennedy has said

One of the worst things that has happened is that the environment has become almost a partisan issue.

I think that's true of pro-choice as well, so I don't begrudge planned parenthood or naral supporting republicans.

[genius]

5. They are supporting the GOP with my money. I want a refund

of all my donations.

[tritsofme]

10. Planned Parenthood is not an office in the DNC Headquarters

You should have known they will support the pro-choice candidate with the best chance of winnning in elections.

To dump such a great organization because they are not strict partisians is ridiculous.

[Freddie Stubbs]

15. A refund?

When you donated the money, did they promise to only support Democrats? If not, perhaps your expectations were unrealistic. Even labor unions occasionally support Republicans.

[Toots]

20. It isn't the environment that is partisan it is what is being done to it

The same thing for abortion. It is the laws being created to destroy progress already made. there has been a concerted effort on the part of Liberals throughout the history of this country that have tried to make things better for "the people". At every opportunity the Republicans have tried to undermine this progress and take from the people to give to the large corporations. The Republicans have always been for the big money interests and NEVER for the benefit of mankind or the Earth. that is what is partisan not the environment.

[Humor_In_Cuneiform]

4. Definitely has the stench of dirty tricks

[ProudDad]

6. If it isn't a spoof

It might be their attempt to nominate a less eggregious repuke in the primary.

There's a right-wing wing nut running against her in what is usually a strong repuke (can you say shoe-in) district.

The freepers don't like her, that's for sure... call her a RINO.

[Bridget Burke]

18. True, but this not a Republican versus Democrat election....

You are smart enough to notice this is a primary. Many aren't.

[ISUGRADIA]

7. For Those in Doubt: THIS IS TRUE

PP is backing a Republican over a Democrat in this race:

"There are four Democrats and a Green Party candidate in the race, all of whom favor abortion rights. But some argue that the huge Republican advantage in voter registration makes Brewer the pro-abortion rights candidate with the best chance of winning. Planned Parenthood, which usually supports Democrats, has endorsed Brewer and will be doing mailings on her behalf. She'll also be getting help from the national Republican Majority for Choice."

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:xvO1pg0spIIJ:www.ocregister.com/ocregister/abox/article_681557.php+Planned+Parenthood+of+Orange+County+%22Marilyn+Brewer+%22&hl=en

[blondeatlast]

13. I don't doubt it at all; but it's hardly a first for them.

They have pretty much a single-issue agenda and they are putting their money where there mouth is.

From the article, I conclude it's a pretty savvy move from the agenda standpoint.

[Bridget Burke]

17. No, this is FALSE!

Her opponent in this election is the other Republican. This is a special election--like a primary.

[ISUGRADIA]

21. It's TRUE: Two points

1) I was responding to those who thought this was some kind of scam i.e. that PP would not endorse a Republican.

2) A primary is a preview to a general or other election. This special election all parties run together and the winning candidate goes to Congress. There is NO RUNOFF.

There is a pro-choice Democrat who is running. He could be elected to Congress with 30% easily via a split Repub vote and the Independent anti-immigration candidates.

The results (simplified) could be as follows:

Rep Anti-choice 25%
Rep Pro-choice 29%
Dem Pro-choice 30% GOES TO CONGRESS
Anti-Immigration Independent 10%
13 others 6%

[Bridget Burke]

23. Wrong again....

"What makes the special election for the 48th District seat intriguing for Gilchrist is that -- with 17 names on an open primary-style ballot -- no candidate is expected to win more than 50 percent of the vote, setting up a runoff that would include the top candidate from each party."

www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/01/AR2005100101039.html

There will be a runoff. The area is 27% Democratic.

[genius]

34. I have the voter lists. That's not correct. Steve is expected to win.

Though he is a liberal Democrats, he has a lot of fed-up Republicans voting for him, too. Don't forget the most Republican of the cities has a Democratic Mayor and Democratic City Council.

[ISUGRADIA]

37. mea culpa...you're absolutely correct

i did not see any runoff provision the article i read about the election.

[genius]

28. It's a general election if one candidate gets a majority.

Steve is expecting that majority. The Democrats feel that today is the best chance for a victory.

[genius]

24. The Register thinks Steve can win and Irvine has a Democratic mayor

PPA could shift the balance.

[Kenroy]

8. No thank you

I will continue to support Planned Parenthood. If I want to support an organization that only supports Democrats, I'll give to the Democratic national committee. PP is a non-partisan organization (and SHOULD be, if it wants to keep its status) and they're well within their rights to support a Republican candidate who agrees with their issues.

As for demanding a refund, good luck with that.

[REP]

9. ALL Democrats Are Pro-Choice? What Are You Smoking?

No, all Democrats are not pro-choice. Planned Parenthood is not a Democratic party group; they're a reproductive rights group and they have the right and duty to support whoever will keep their morals off my body.

[MaineDem]

11. Hear hear

I assume there's a very good reason for PP to make this choice. I don't know the details of the race.

But, you're right; PP's agenda is to get pro-choice people elected regardless of party affiliation. That's their job and I welcome it.

There are other groups out there working to get pro-choice Democrats elected.

Edited for typo

[genius]

29. All the Democrats in that race are pro-choice liberals. Ask them!

Bea Foster is a great liberal pro-choice Democrat. Steve Young, who until the PPA notice, was expecting to win the seat today, is a great liberal Democrat. Tom Pallow is also pro-choice.

Now, remember that PRO-CHOICE REPUBLICANS regularly vote for anti-choice legislation and anti-choice judges. For them, it's just words.

[blondeatlast]

12. Okay, get your "refund." I'll continue to donate to PP and the DNC, since

the money I put into one of them has nothing whatsoever to do with the other.

:eyes:

[blondeatlast]

14. Boycotting PPA is one of the stupidest moves pro-choice supporters

could make in the current political climate.

Right, let's abandon and cut off the nutrient supply of the single most visible and activist entity working to keep abortion safe and legal, one with support from every part of the political spectrum. :eyes:

It's a scheme I'd expect from a lurking HF intern, not a longtime DUer.

[genius]

27. Why should I support a group that backs Republican candidates?

If I donate to them, I'm cutting my throat.

[blondeatlast]

30. It's been mentioned in this thread before, but I'll take you at

your screen name and hope to hell you can figure it out.

:eyes:

[genius]

33. I'm a Democrat. People can support Republicans on other boards.

We need to be Democrats here.

[Bridget Burke]

16. This is a Primary Election....

Planned Parenthood prefers Ms Brewer to John Campbell, the other Republican candidate--a former car dealer endorsed by Schwarzenegger. "Brewer has kept her distance from President Bush and pegged her campaign to her support for abortion rights and the environment."

www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/states/california/northern_california/12812390.htm

Jim Gilchrist (Founder of the Minutemen) is running as American Independant. He is expected to get some of Campbell's voters--the truly "Conservative" yahoos.

Since the area is 27% Democratic, the Democratic candidate does not have much of a chance.

Planned Parenthood is doing exactly the right thing. I'll be sure to increase my donation.

Thanks for the misinformation!

Edited to add: This is a Special Election to replace the former Congressman, but it uses an "open, primary style ballot." Choices of each party will face each other, probably after a runoff.

www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/01/AR2005100101039.html

[blondeatlast]

19. WaPo is a much clearer article, especially since Gilchrist is a factor.

This could be a race for us to follow even if it has little to do with abortion.

It's going to be pretty much a single issue race over immigration, it appears.

[genius]

26. It's only a primary if no one gets a majority. Steve expects that majority

PPA stabbed the Democrats in the back.

[MaineDem]

31. A Primary! Well, gee, imagine PP backing a Republican ...

Thanks for this information. It chages the meaning but I'm not sure certain people will change their mind.

PP is backing a pro-choice Republican in a primary versus other REPUBLICANS. That makes perfect sense.

[genius]

32. READ: This is NOT A PRIMARY. IT'S THE REAL ELECTION.

If a candidate gets a majority, that candidate goes immediately to Congress. Only if PPA kills Steve's expected majority and NO candidate wins, will there be a run-off.

[MaineDem]

35. No need to yell...in any case PP is not partisan

Pull your support if you want; that's up to you. But I suggest you do more research into the organization before you make up your mind.

[noonwitch]

22. Some old school republicans support PP

I believe that Babs and Daddy Bush were supporters prior to 1980.

Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins are pro-choice, as are some other republicans.

[WildClarySage]

25. Too bad they didn't support it enough to use it.

[Zynx]

36. Whatever could you mean by that?

;-)

[tritsofme]

38. Steve Young got 8.9% of the vote...

UNITED STATES REPRESENTATIVE 48th District
Vote Count Percentage
JOHN CAMPBELL (REP) 36640 46.0%
MARILYN C. BREWER (REP) 13272 16.7%
JIM GILCHRIST (AI) 11490 14.4%
STEVE YOUNG (DEM) 7110 8.9%
JOHN GRAHAM (DEM) 3242 4.1%
BEA FOSTER (DEM) 2606 3.3%
DON UDALL (REP) 1284 1.6%
JOHN KELLY (REP) 955 1.2%
BÉA TIRITILLI (GRN) 698 0.9%
BRUCE COHEN (LIB) 667 0.8%
DAVID R. CROUCH (REP) 455 0.6%
SCOTT MACCABE (REP) 353 0.4%
MARSHA A. MORRIS (REP) 322 0.4%
TOM PALLOW (DEM) 270 0.3%
GUY E. MAILLY (REP) 138 0.2%
MARSHALL SAMUEL SANDERS (REP) 94 0.1%
EDWARD A. SUPPE (REP) 87 0.1%


Young, or any Democrat never had a chance. This is Orange County.

http://www.oc.ca.gov/election/Live/e26/results.htm