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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 07:47 AM
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Why do ANY democrats act like this regime has even a shred of legitimacy?
For God's sake!!

The House leader is under indictment for conspiracy and money laundering.

The Senate leader is under investigation for insider trading

The whole f!@#$% White House itself does nothing but scurry back and forth to testify before a grand jury looking at: treason, espionage, conspiracy, perjury, obstruction.

The rest of the Republicans are like the passengers in that cartoon of the pilot in the airliner with the parachute on who says - Hang on, I'm going for help. Don't they LOOK slinky and uncomfortable when they have to go on talk shows and parrot the views of a rotten, stinking corpse of party that exists only for the self enrichment of a few at the expense of the many? For heaven's sakes, even Ann Coulter is running off the stage because the Republican reality is just too grim to bear.

The time for moderation is long past. The public is outraged. If we cannot seize this moment and wrestle this country back from these thugs then we are lost. I am so sick and tired of seeing a few real patriots like Conyers and a handful of others do all the heavy lifting while we poor citizens stand by and watch the smash and grab on the country, our Constitution, our ideals, our wealth,our place in the world, our history, our vote, our very inner core as a people.

I want leadership NOW!! I want it to come from the top down and not the bottom up. LEADERSHIP NOW!
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 07:49 AM
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1. it won't happen until we vote some new democrats in
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RethugAssKicker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 07:51 AM
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2. Idealism is dead....
Everyone, including our dem leaders have joined the world of greed and self-satisfaction. "get what you can before the ship goes down" is the current mantra.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 07:58 AM
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3. Maybe it's because we have Democrats in states that VOTED FOR BUSH!
Hello Rocket Scientist! Not every Democrat comes from Massachusetts ya know!
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 08:01 AM
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5. Doesn't seem to
stop the rethugs in states that voted for Gore and Kerry.........
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 08:04 AM
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6. It doesn't stop them because they're in power.
That alone gives them a free ride.

And don't forget the conservative media.
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 08:59 AM
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9. You know, I am really starting to like you
Sometimes I think that people develop their opinions in a vacuum. They do not take into account that there IS another side and half the country is on it.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 09:41 AM
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11. Thanks, I'm starting to like you too!
:hi: You're right. I think people also look at the Kucinichs, Conyers, and Boxers of the party and forget that these people are completely safe. They don't fear a tough re-election. They don't understand these people aren't operating in a part of the world where 52% of the people voted for Bush.

Politics is the only profession where 200 million people think they know more about your job than you do.
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Lindsay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 07:59 AM
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4. Amen.
I hit a point several years ago where I couldn't believe people were talking about Bush as though he were a legitimate President.

Since then I have wondered how Congressional Dems could possibly continue to treat anything any Repug says or does as anything but evil. They lie about everything and regard the American people as subjects, not citizens.

I think there are far too few real Dems left. Conyers and most of the CBC and a few other House members are all we've really had. Most of the Senate Dems are too obligated to their corporate supporters to support the average person consistently.

It's time for the Congressional Dems to wake up and see that it's time for them to be responsible to the people who elected them and not just to the corporations that fund them.

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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 08:05 AM
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7. I think it's because to some degree
those things the repugs are being indicted for are simply mis steps (sp?) in a PAC heavy, money run political process that Dem and repug alike work in. Abramoff is likely just another name for many other thousands of influence peddlers in DC that are part of the
watering down of our democracy.
If those who make the rules are corrupt how do we the people clean it up? I'm not trying to be a gloom and doomer (well, maybe a little) just trying to frame the problem so I can begin to approach it.

In other words, a bigger problem would be to think it's just them. Even if compared to the elephant party we dems are the diet cola of evil, this is still a big problem.

I agree though. How do the hard core bushies keep the faith amidst all the BS?
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 08:56 AM
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8. you're so right - "the diet cola of evil"
It is simplistic to believe that the world is divided into the good guys and the bad guys. Our world is divided up into worse and worsers and only when the incredibly horrific overstep their bounds do we go back to our old comfortable levels of corruption. Hey everyone does it, right?
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 09:01 AM
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10. You said it...faith
They have grabbed that right wing Christian nerve and are tweaking it for all its worth. And oddly enough, those people will ignore quite a bit from someone they see as 'one of them'.
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