mntleo2
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Tue Oct-04-05 09:02 AM
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What Happens After GW Leaves If Miers Is Left On SCOTUS? |
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I am just wondering here, and nobody is asking this question. So, Miers worships GWB. GW will be president the maximum of another 3 years, but she is left on the SC for life... why put her on SCOTUS when she is not going to be worshiping at his feet for much longer?
I think this is a good question. Because it leads to WHY she would need a lifelong post...could it be so GWB would guarantee he would *never* be held accountable for any of the disasters he has created? Especially the one where people might find he has been treasonous as far as the outing of Valerie Plame? This could result in a death penalty and they know it. And who would ultimately decide if he and Cheney as well as the rest of them were treasonous? SCOTUS? I know it would start in Congress, but it would end up, on SCOTUS, right?
Everyone is talking about 'cronyism', how she worships the ground he walks on, and how she says GWB is 'the smartest man she has ever met', but nobody seems to think beyond his term, when she will have YEARS left without him and what this means.
P.S. I heard on Thom Hartman yesterday there are indications there were meetings about outing Plame by all the higher ups, and so they all lied about knowing or being any part of it. She was most likely the one giving the legal advice along with Gonzales. So, when GWB and Cheney as well as others discussed the outing of Plame, she was most likely there and it was her advice...
Just asking...
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Tue Oct-04-05 09:08 AM
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1. Oh, come on. If anything like that comes before her she'll just |
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recuse herself, won't she?
Right?
(in a smaller voice)
Right?
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Tue Oct-04-05 09:10 AM
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thats the angle I have been looking at it... she and Roberts would be there as safeguards... Now lets just hope some associate judges are pissed they got passed over for Chief positions wink, wink.
Putting on my specialized origami tinfoil hat here.. :tinfoilhat: I wonder if that pathetic case of a contract for yellowcake was bait.
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Tue Oct-04-05 09:17 AM
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3. mntleo, if bush were proved to have leaked Plame's name |
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himself, it would not be treason. Treason is defined in the US constitution and leaking an undercover CIA's name doesn't come close to the charge.
Their are laws that may have been broken such as the CIA outing law and leaking classified information. There are secondary laws such as perjury, obstruction of justice, and conspiracy that also may apply.
But once bush is out of office it's very unlikely any of those would make it all the way to the Supreme Court.
So I wouldn't worry about Plame and the SCOTUS.
Besides, if Miers is denied, who might bush nominate next?
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Tue Oct-04-05 09:33 AM
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4. If he is ever prosecuted - would she have to recuse herself? |
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Tue Oct-04-05 10:21 AM
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5. Her Nomination Is Just More Smoke And Mirrors |
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...this I know and anyone with half a mind sees, but it is just sick. The whole thing is a sick sideshow that is pulling the rest of us along ....Perhaps this appointment could also make it look good enough for Jeb to come on the scene next from the Bu$h crime family? After all they will all remain lily white and most of the population will never know the truth about their filthy, greedy intentions...
GAWD I hate these people! AAAAARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH!
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Tue Oct-04-05 10:23 AM
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6. She's an idiot now, she'll be an idiot then... |
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Tue Oct-04-05 11:40 AM
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7. USSC justices can be impeached, just like Presidents. If Miers should be |
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confirmed by a bare majority, and Dubya subsequently resigns in shame or is successfully impeached, there would be a good case for impeaching Miers and Roberts.
Roberts's confirmation margin was smaller than that of any justice in history other than Clarence Thomas. Surely Miers will not get MORE votes than Roberts. Should Dubya be forced out, a case could be made that never could have been made before in American history: The justices who were nominated and pushed through by pure politics, without a bipartisan consensus of Senators, are pure creatures of a criminal, ousted, illegitimate President.
And the impeachment of a Miers or a Roberts could trigger their resignations, just as did the impeachment of Richard Nixon.
Interestingly, the most complete account of the only impeachment of a USSC Justice (that of Samuel Chase in 1804) was written during the 90s by -- William Rehnquist.
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Tue Oct-04-05 02:43 PM
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8. Impeachment Would Be Good Except |
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Everyone is saying that impeachment is not in the cards with a Repig Reich majority. It IS a good question though, which I wish SOMEONE, either media or politician, anybody would ask ~ why have an adoring Bush fan left on the bench 20 years or more after Bush is long gone ~ unless they have some plans for her beyond this Bush? If so, what sort of plans?
Some are saying that Meiers and Roberts is being put there to protect GW, and herself, as well as the rest of his cabinet. Maybe it is just time to get out the torches and pitchforks!
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Wed Oct-05-05 12:27 AM
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10. There are two things wrong with your post |
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First, if Shrub resigns or is impeached, I don't see how that should have anything at all to do with Miers (or Roberts). You can only impeach a Justice if their behavior permits it, the Constitution clearly states that.
Second, it's not true at all that "Roberts's confirmation margin was smaller than that of any justice in history other than Clarence Thomas." Roberts was confirmed 78-22. Off the top of head, William Rehnquist didn't get out of the 60's in 1972, and again didn't get out of the 60's when he got the Chief nod in 1986. I'm sure there are others as well who didn't get 78 votes.
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Wed Oct-05-05 01:52 AM
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14. Nixon appointed 4 justices before he resigned |
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Edited on Wed Oct-05-05 01:53 AM by tritsofme
The last one just died about a month ago.
In the unlikely occurance that Bush leaves office before Jan 2009, I don't see why his SCOUTS justices would be impeached as well.
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Tue Oct-04-05 02:45 PM
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9. personally, I don't think he's going to leave... |
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The SCOTUS already appointed him once and now that he is stacking the court in his favor, I bet you they will review the 25th amendment when we get hit by another MITOP. Thus stating for the time being they have to wave the 25th amendment and allow moron* to "run" for another term only to be either reappointed or put in by another vote fix.
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Wed Oct-05-05 12:33 AM
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I've been saying this a while, he's not going to leave for anyone but another Bush or immediate proxy.
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ReadTomPaine
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Wed Oct-05-05 12:32 AM
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11. Well, we will have his freak to deal with for decades, that's what. |
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...and the Bush family will have a direct operative on the SCOTUS they will use to influence the court for her lifelong term.
Fun.
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Wed Oct-05-05 01:47 AM
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13. We should call Miers, "Liars" |
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