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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 09:11 AM
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Speculation: Could Harriet Miers conversion have had to do with Abortion?
Edited on Wed Oct-05-05 09:12 AM by KoKo01
Reading this article about her born again conversion at the age of 33 made me wonder what happened to her that she would suddenly feel a need to dedicate her life to Christ. Could she have been an alchoholic like Bush? Or, is it more likely that she had an abortion? Many women who had to seek "private abortions" and given Harriet's age, I assume it would have been more likely a "private abortion" suffered terrible guilt afterwards, wondering if they did the right thing. There was a terrible stigma and one often didn't tell anyone keeping it from friends and family.

I wonder if her conversion due to terrible guilt for what she had done and she's spent her life trying to make up for it. I've known women who had abortions who completely turned against the right of women to choose thinking that they had made a mistake and they didn't want any other women to make the same mistake. That she never married could be that her experience caused such bitterness that it turned her off to all men and sex for the rest of her life. It happens...

If this is true about Miers i.e. unhappy love affair, a date rape or whatever, and she had an abortion and is angry and bitter about it, then she's definitely going to be willing to overturn Roe vs. Wade. And, it would explain her relationship with the Chimp. They both have terrible guilt in their past for behaviors that they feel they had to root out of their psyche's.

This is just my speculation..having seen this with some women I've known.

:shrug:

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Religious conversion redefined nominee's worldview

By Julia Duin
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
October 5, 2005


Like George W. Bush, who at 39 made a similar life-changing decision in the summer of 1985 during an encounter with the Rev. Billy Graham, Miss Miers was looking for a spiritual change. She was 33.
Nathan Hecht, then a fellow lawyer at the Dallas law firm of Locke, Purnell, Boren, Laney & Neely and now an associate justice of the Texas Supreme Court, played the piano at Valley View. They began to go out together, and one day he invited her to church.
"She had made partner, had a great practice, lots of clients, making a good living, the works," Justice Hecht said. "She got to thinking about her life: 'Is this all there is?' She decided she wanted a stronger faith."
The two "argued about it some," he recalls, and one day, she "came down the hallway to say she had made a decision. She had made a personal commitment ."
Not only did this affect her financially -- "If you see her tax returns, you'll see she gives 15 percent to the church," Justice Hecht said -- but it also transformed her views on issues such as abortion.
"After her conversion, she thought more about things in a serious way. She realized life begins at conception. Taking a life after conception was serious business, and therefore you could not do it without a good reason," the judge said.

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20051005-122400-8922r.htm
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 09:14 AM
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1. It's from the WASHINGTON TIMES, for God's sake!
The article is most likely a pile of hype.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 09:18 AM
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2. I was thinking the same thing
- the only other explanation is her "boyfriend" Nathan Hecht - maybe it was her attempt to ensnare him - by converting to his religion/beliefs - looks like it didn't work out that well for her. So then she became "attached" to GW - whether there is sex involved or not - it seems like she's enamored of him.

How does a woman - or man for that matter - get to their 60's without being married and being fanatically religous enough to "not have sex". I can't imagine her actually having sex "outside of marriage" - so it seems she became pretty asexual - though this could be due to abortion trauma, as well.

However, Nathan did make make that "middle of the night" comment - so I'ma wondering how chaste these "born-again Christians" really are?!?! I suppose I would feel better about their being normal - but then again, they would have to go through very complex mental gymnastics to justify their sex-outside-of-marriage behaviour, wouldn't they?

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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 09:29 AM
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3. This is so odd. First of all, why is Hecht spilling his guts like this?
These things seem so personal, to tell the world. I'd be pissed at the guy. Are they still dating?

Secondly, if they all want someone who is such a strong right-to-lifer, it would behoove them to keep that a secret - otherwise the Dems (I would hope) would vote against her.

I think your theories are very possible. But, I don't think it is uncommon for people to do what Hecht said, looking for more meaning to life. If you have heard Jane Fonda lately, the same thing happened to her (although she is still pro-choice). The difference, for Miers, though, is that she chose a religion that places serious limits on the way you live your life. To me, this implies, like you said, that someone is living in guilt and by joining an organization that tells you these things are wrong, you are somehow absolved. (i.e. drinking, abortion, etc.)

My even bigger worry about her is the fundamentalist belief that men are better than women. Woman in power do what they do, but only for the glory of a man. (which my husband said, hey, good idea haha). This implies to me that AssClown picked her because he knows she will do whatever he wants. I picture years and years of her calling him for advice and her voting for whatever the BFEE wants.

Bottom line, a supreme court nominee's religion shouldn't matter EXCEPT when that religion's teachings are contrary to the law of the land. (i.e. that men and women are equal). The ONLY way you as a nominee can prove that this would not influence you on the court is to provide proof of rulings that demonstrate that you keep church and state separate. SHE HAS NONE !!!
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