RUMOR from the hill: Rove to be indicted on 22 counts of conspiracy.

[Buck Turgidson]

This second hand rumor is coming from hill offices and DSCC senior staff: Karl Rove will be indicted on 22 different counts of conspiracy starting later today or Tuesday.

Take it for what it's worth, but I am encouraged.

[TayTay]

1. I think it might happen later on next week.

Judy Miller has been summoned back by Fitzgerald to talk again with the GJ on Tuesday. I think that indictments against Rove are still likely, but not until at least next week.

[The Backlash Cometh]

6. What's your source?

[TayTay]

11. Today's New York Times

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/07/politics/07leak.html
Prosecutor in Leak Inquiry Orders Rove to Return Again

By DAVID JOHNSTON
Published: October 7, 2005

SNIP

Meanwhile, Mr. Fitzgerald has indicated that he is not entirely finished with Judith Miller, the reporter for The New York Times who recently testified before the grand jury after serving 85 days in jail. According to a lawyer familiar with the case, Mr. Fitzgerald has asked Ms. Miller to meet him next Tuesday to further discuss her conversations with I. Lewis Libby, the vice president's chief of staff.

Ms. Miller went to jail rather than divulge the identity of her source, but agreed to testify after Mr. Libby released her from a pledge of confidentiality.

Mr. Fitzgerald has not indicated whether he plans to summon Ms. Miller for further testimony before the grand jury.

Robert D. Luskin, a lawyer for Mr. Rove, said that Mr. Rove has not received a target letter, which are sometimes used by prosecutors to advise people that they are likely to be charged with a crime. Mr. Luskin said Thursday that "the special counsel has said that he has made no charging decision."

[The Backlash Cometh]

17. This article was already combed through.

Nothing that Luskins says can be taken seriously. Go to Crooks and Liars and look up the guy who spoke on Olberman last night. Excellent dissection.

[TayTay]

19. So Miller isn't being asked to come back?

If Rove is talking to Fitzgerald today, and then Miller comes back, it seems to me that Fitz is looking for inconsistencies and is giving these people another chance to hang themselves.

I can easily wait, if this is the reason. I bet we get indictments within 5 -7 days. If the indictments are stronger because of these witness callbacks, then so much the better.

[The Backlash Cometh]

20. I'm sorry! I was responding to the last paragraph in the article.

I think Judy is being summoned on Tuesday. I've picked up a lot of information on DU since first reading your post this morning.

[TayTay]

21. LOL! No problem, there is a lot of info flying around on this

IT's like the Christmas Eve, my birthday and my wedding anniversary all at once. I can't wait to unwrap this particular package. I am just trying to pracctice patience cuz I want this indictment to indicate an 'airtight' case. That's worth waiting a few days for.

[HereSince1628]

2. So, who did he conspire with?

By definition alone you can be a plotter, but can you be a lone conspirator? 22 times?

[yellowcanine]

12. Libby, Chaney and Bush? Libby and Rove get indicted, the other two

are unindicted coconspirators following the Watergate Nixon precedent.

[Toots]

14. I heard there were 22 people facing indictment

If rove had talked to all of them before the outing and they all agreed outing was the proper thing to do then he is guilty of conspiring with all of them and that would indeed be 22 counts of conspiracy. I believe at least a cluster or two of the 22 have turned (states evidence). Because a cluster has turned Miller can say what she wants and return to life. IOW the cat is out of the bag so it don't matter what she says and she is saying things...

[yellowcanine]

22. I don't believe you would have 22 indictments for 22 participitants

Unless Rove conspired separately with 22 different people. I suppose that is possible but it seems unlikely.

[NYCGirl]

3. You got a link or something on that, Sparky? NT

[Field Of Dreams]

4. Does that mean he chatted with 22 different people about Plame?

Any lawyers in the house?

[Skittles]

26. I don't understand either

it sounds ridiculous

[mattclearing]

5. We will see. n/t

[BlueEyedSon]

7. I hope at least one other goes down with him

[npincus]

8. hey there, Buck... DO TELL us your sources? Or just give a hint!

[Buck Turgidson]

9. You know what I know.

It's a second hand rumor. Someone heard it and told me. Neither of us can verify it.

[npincus]

10. hey, don't put yourself down! tee hee

I was hoping for espionage, myself, but conspiracy works for me, too.

[nvliberal]

13. If you can't verify it,

why post about it?

[Buck Turgidson]

15. You have a point.

I could just wait until this shows up in some unimpeachable source such as the MSM.

But, if it's true, then it provides new details about the indictments.

[neweurope]

16. He DID call it a "rumor". So what do you want? I love rumors.

Rumors are often very helpful.

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Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!

[GR]

18. Funny About This "22 Number;" Want A Wild Rumor About "22 Indictments?"

This is the wildest one I've seen....

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=521848

"Sept. 26, 2005
I have just been informed by a source of the highest integrity who has access to the most current behind-the-scenes information that 22 Indictments are ready to be released. In addition to the Bush regime, they target Members of Congress and certain very well-known newspeople. The interference of Judge Filip can be overcome by the agreement of two other judges and this WILL be happening.

These Indictments will address the cabal's planning and carrying out the 9/11 attacks, the destruction of the New Orleans levees via explosive charges, the Illegal war in Iraq, two rigged Presidential elections (2000 & 2004), the outing of CIA Agent Valerie Plame and much more.

We can expect these Indictments to be made public VERY SOON - possibly in a few days, a week or at most two. There are at least a hundred (100!) more Indictments to follow these!

There may be a run on the country's champagne stocks, so go out and get yours now!

David


I got confirmation from another source I trust that Bush would be resigning in 1 1/2 months - putting this in mid-November.

The source that confirmed the Indictments also corroborated this information:


9-11 crash victim Barbara Olson arrested in Europe

by Tom Flocco

Germany--September 22, 2005--TomFlocco.com--French and American intelligence agents have arrested Barbara Olson, the wife of a former Bush administration official, a few days ago on the Polish-German border, according to agents close to and with knowledge of the incident.

The alleged 9.11 Pentagon crash victim was found to be in possession of millions in fake interbank Italian lira currency, according to the agents.

Olson was also reportedly in possession of a fraudulent Vatican passport and was held on charges of counterfeiting.

Barbara K. Olson

The former Fox News TV commentator and Independent Women's Forum activist was said to have called her husband Theodore Olson from her plane to seek help in countering hijackers who had allegedly taken over American flight 77 which the Bush administration said was crashed into the Pentagon- although the impact only left an opening approximately 16 feet across.

Ted Olson is the former Bush 43 Solicitor General who had previously argued the President's legal interests in the controversial Bush-Gore 2000 election recount case before the U.S. Supreme Court.

Theodore (Ted) B. Olson


Mrs. Olson's alleged cell phone call to her husband was employed by the administration and the 9.11 Commission as partial proof that American 77 crashed into the Pentagon, despite physical evidence to the contrary.

The Pentagon crash evidence was ignored and obstructed by both the Commission and previously by the Joint Congressional Intelligence Committee in its own separate probe.

Due to the ongoing sensitive nature of the arrest, investigation and questioning, one source who declined to be named for this story, told TomFlocco.com that Olson's call to her husband was a fraud and that another projectile impacted the Pentagon other than Olson's plane.

The agents were said to have closed in to arrest the former television pundit because the evidence of counterfeiting and passport violations was obvious and that the timing was right.

According to the agents, Barbara Olson is reportedly considered to be a conspirator to the obstruction of justice in the mass murders of 3,000 individuals on September 11, 2001 in the attacks on the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and the alleged crash in southwestern Pennsylvania.

Olson's arrest and potential appearance at trial in the United States would undoubtedly have a profound impact upon current "Able Danger" hearings in the Senate and past probes by both the Joint Congressional Intelligence Committee and the 9.11 Commission.



We have changed the location of this report to the Polish-German border to correct the original phoned-in intelligence report we received.
When we went back and questioned this location, We were given the Polish-German border as the correct location.
The spelling of Olson’s name was corrected within 60 minutes after the story was posted"

[carolinalady]

23. This sounds like the National Enquirer of the internet. n/t

[Buck Turgidson]

25. If you want credibility, AmericaBlog has the latest TRUE rumors about Rove

http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/10/ominous-signs-and-genuine-concerns.html

[bluedawg12]

28. He must be sweating like an albino pig in the hot New Orleans sun

KKKarl must be on his third pair of odor eaters today- his wing tips are soggy.

btw- great blog.

[rhett o rick]

24. Plez don't tease me like that. nt

[Norquist Nemesis]

27. ummm....I have a (stupid) question

Note: I'm not a lawyer.

I've been hearing about possible "unindicted co-conspirators". While, I thought I knew the meaning of the term, things get nuanced so much, I want to be certain from a legal aspect what exactly that means.

Does an "unindicted co-conspirator" indicate culpability but no consequences? How does that happen...plea bargain?

Anyone?