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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 09:11 AM
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Gallup's 45% (+5) approval Trumpeted, NYT/CBS' 37% (-4) Barely Mentioned
is it me, or has anyone noticed that the Gallup uptick (+5) in Chimp's approval rating was trumpeted on all networks last week, but his record low drop to 35% (NYT/CBS Poll) was not mentioned anywhere- except for CBS.

So, the MSM want everyone to know the Chimp is "making a comeback", rather than sinking deeper and deeper into an abyss of his own making (Shitty war, Republican scandals, katrina paralysis, eroding conservative base due to Miers SC selection).

Is it me? Has anyone heard this 37% mentioned? Why wouldn't this be relevant now in light of all that is going on?
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 09:15 AM
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1. Just as his Katrina speech drove away his base,
so has the Miers nomination. He has nowhere to go down from zero, with sane people. So now he is finding ways to lose the few idiots he still has clinging to him like remora.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 09:20 AM
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2. The fact that ANYTHING below 50% can be spun as "good"
betrays the true bias of the media. They will prop up this fake as long as they can, because as CBS/Viacom CEO Sumner Redstone said:

"I don't want to denigrate Kerry," he went on, "but from a Viacom standpoint, the election of a Republican administration is a better deal. Because the Republican administration has stood for many things we believe in, deregulation and so on. The Democrats are not bad people. . . . But from a Viacom standpoint, we believe the election of a Republican administration is better for our company."

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110005669
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 09:20 AM
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3. I heard the 37 percent reported yesterday...
..and I also heard today that Americans are not confident that the government will fail to effectively fund Katrina relief.

When my husband returned from work yesterday, I asked if he's heard about the 37 percent. He said he did.

We mainly get our day-time MSM news from listening to the radio in the car.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 09:36 AM
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5. that's good news
I watch the first 20 mminutes of NBC's Today show (a long-term habit), and remember they promo'd "Bush making a comeback" re: Gallup at the top of the 7:00AM hour... but no mention today about Chimpy's slide. Same for CNN and other channels I surfed as I was getting up this morning.

i would like to be wrong.

thanks.
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 09:22 AM
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4. Gallup proved that polls are meaningless during Depressions.
How can they poll anyone form New Orleans?

During our last depression, pollsters thought Langdon would easily defeat FDR. FDR easily defeated Langdon and won almost all of the electoral college. Gallup, however, got it right. Of course, the Gallop results are in question today.
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 10:30 AM
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6. It's a poll under the name of CBS News

so the other networks aren't going to cite it. Gallup, OTOH, they pay some fee and Gallup's reputation as national institution carries it.

Gallup's 45% was a 3% overshoot and CBS News's 37% was a 3% undershoot, in my opinion, for the days they polled. We're in a wierd period of very small increments of real downtick, 1% per month sort of chunks, and the pollsters don't actually have the accuracy to show that individually with those 3% standard margins of error. It will be aggregates of polls taken over months that will show real declines, stuff like going from 40% to 36% over 4 months.

Our real problem here is that there isn't an unattached national pollster of repute out there other than Gallup. We're seeing the effects of Zogby screwing around outcomes last year trying to sensationalize minor results and their screwing around with their methodology this year. Pollsters like Harris or Pew don't poll often enough and don't market themselves in the way necessary to compete with Gallup. Gallup does put out a national poll weekly, everybody else is doing so monthly.

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