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delhurgo Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 10:42 PM
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Robert Bork calls Miers nomination "a disaster".
He was on 'Tucker Carlson' on MSNBC. I can't remember much of what else he said, but he was totally negative. This should have impact since Bork is held in such high esteem by conservatives. I don't think the nomination is going to be pulled or that Miers will withdrawal, but the controversy just keeps going lol.

I'm getting to the point where I'm starting to think maybe Democrats might have to help her get through, if she does well during the hearings. Bork mentioned that himself. I'm conflicted, I don't like her, shes too conservative I think, but I doubt Democrats can do better.

Also, earlier today Bush compared her to Byron White. I haven't heard anyone mention that yet, but I think that was done on purpose to send a signal thats she will be anti-abortion but also unpredictable like him. A centrist/conservative. I don't know if thats true or not, but I think thats the message that Bush was sending.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 10:45 PM
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1. Same thing on Aaron Brown
Totally negative
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 10:45 PM
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2. So has she been Borked?
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delhurgo Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 10:51 PM
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4. Heh yeah, he should know better.
I always did think he was bitter about that, now he's taking it out on poor Harriet lol. And btw, he didn't mean that just the nomination was a disaster he meant her too. Essentially he said thats shes a nice lady, but a lightweight.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 10:46 PM
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3. Yeah, I'm surprised all
those con-servatives don't just roll over and play dead since she's * personal secretary. :popcorn:
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 10:52 PM
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5. Didn't the cons whine about the Presidential privilege
to appoint a supreme- and told us over and over that advise and consent only meant: consent!?

The question is: if the right hates her- and it seems she is right up there with bill and hill- can the left love her or is she a total train wreck?
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 10:57 PM
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8. I think she's a total train wreck.
She will overturn Roe v. Wade, for sure, and with Roberts already on there, the gays are probably in trouble.
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delhurgo Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 10:57 PM
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10. I think she's bad, but not an ideologue like Scalia.
That may be the best we can hope for. If she goes down, who would be next, Janice Brown, Owen,... some other far-right movement conservative you can be sure.

"Advise and consent". Yeah, and whatever happened to "the Ginsburg Rule" that they talked about so much during the Roberts hearings. Hypocrites.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:14 PM
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12. Cons wanted no ideology talk with Roberts- now,
they whine that they don't know her ideology! They had to have KKKarl whisper in Dobson's ear that she is OK. puke.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 10:54 PM
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6. is there a chance that she ends up resigning as Justice
Edited on Fri Oct-07-05 10:55 PM by JI7
if she is confirmed.

just because she comes across as totally ignorant . it seems like a college student and probably even a high achieving high school student is more informed than she is. she will just be too confused and end up resigning maybe.

the stuff i have seen of her so far seem like things she did or said because someone else told her to.

Clarence Thomas who is also an incompetent does nothing but sit up there. you are a fucking supreme court justice but you NEVER ask questions ? we might have two of those on the court.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 10:57 PM
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9. There's a precedent for it but, that'd be a humiliation.
I heard some political godfather of one president was nominated and actually confirmed and the guy still said no (and probably was a lot better off for it). This was in the 19th century. Can't recall the names.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:08 PM
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11. well, i don't mean rejecting it
she would serve for some time. but resign after a while with some excuse about how she wants to spend time with family or something else similar.

the stuff on her is so mixed i'm not sure what to say or think about her.

the good thing is the Republicans might demand she give straight answers on things just because they are as curious as we are.

but then again we don't know much about Roberts either. i wonder if the right wing agreed to Roberts as a compromise in hopes or expectation that the next Bush appointees would be someone who is clearly right wing.

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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 10:55 PM
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7. I happen to have a strong hunch that Bush knows exactly where she
stands on abortion. He's just LYING about it.

She has gone to a fundie anti-choice church for decades. We ignore that at our own risk.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:18 PM
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13. I wonder how much of this controversy we can attribute to Harry Reid?
Without formally endorsing her, his appearance with Miers in a friendly pose in the moments after her selection by Bush seems to have begun the descent into disarray and division by the right wingers.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:22 PM
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14. Mentioned at this link.
http://www.portervillerecorder.com/articles/2005/10/07/ap/headlines/d8d3hvco0.txt


Among conservatives, William Kristol, editor of The Weekly Standard, and the anti-abortion group Operation Rescue called for Bush to withdraw the Miers nomination. Former federal judge Robert Bork - whose nomination to the Supreme Court the Senate rejected in 1987 - described the choice of Miers as "a disaster on every level."

"It's a little late to develop a constitutional philosophy or begin to work it out when you're on the court already," Bork said on "The Situation" on MSNBC. "It's kind of a slap in the face to the conservatives who've been building up a conservative legal movement for the last 20 years."



:evilgrin:

He knows how to Bork.

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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:23 PM
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15. No litmus test? No religious test? This is hilarious!
The right wingers are running around like a bunch of chickens with their heads cut off. The RW'rs didn't want Roberts judged on his Catholic religion, saying religion shouldn't be an issue. But the RW'rs are now wondering if Miers is evangelical enough?

The GOP Ivy league elitist commentators are downing Miers for having a degree only from SMU. These are the same people who say the GOP represents mainstream America? What a laugh.
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:35 PM
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16. I hope she's confirmed.
She's too conservative, but ANY candidate Bush appoints will be too conservative. I can't help but think that if she doesn't get confirmed, Bush's next pick will be some bat-out-of-Hell ideological wingnut that makes Scalia look liberal.

Hearing the conservatives rail against her makes me feel better about supporting her confirmation. If she is confirmed, even some of the wingnut crowd will start resenting Bush, and his poll numbers will drop even more. If Miers can help fragment the Republican base, so much the better.


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DaveColorado Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:43 PM
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17. Byron White was very socially conservative
That might be the best we can hope from Bush though.

I've heard Bush mention White several times as well, and I think he must admire him or something.

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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:45 PM
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18. If *he* doesn't like her...
...you know she's got to stink.
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