How I know the Qaeda NYC subway "threat" is bogus

[smoogatz]

Bushco claimed the attacks were planned for SUNDAY. But the subway is relatively empty on Sunday--mostly tourists hitting the museums, etc. Any terrorist group worth its salt would hit mass transit during the weekday rush--8:00 a.m. or 5:30 p.m. OTOH, a false warning meant to stir up a little anxiety and distract the media--that you'd schedule for Sunday, so you don't actually disrupt the economy by making New Yorkers afraid to take the subway.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

1. And also

cuz it didn't happen?

yet

[thinkingwoman]

2. Bingo.

Nail. Hammer. Head.

[Seedersandleechers]

3. Agree, totally

[Pepperbelly]

4. What would you be willing to bet?

Your life?

Others' lives?

Just curious.

[smoogatz]

5. You believe them?

That's your right, of course--and if I still lived in NYC, I'd probabl¥ think twice befroe getting on the subway today--but I'd still get on. The evidence that the subway threat is real is mighty shaky; the evidence that Bushco are once again crying wolf is pretty strong.

[Pepperbelly]

8. I don't believe anything.

I don't know.

What I am getting at is just how strongly do you not-believe?

[smoogatz]

10. I don't know it for a fact, obviously.

But what I know about Bushco is that when they say we're in danger, we're not--and when they say the coast is clear, we're screwed.

[Pepperbelly]

11. no doubt they are lying bastards who ... if they had to depend upon

the truth to speak would have very damned little to say. Thanx to HS Truman for that line, acourse.

[Smarmie Doofus]

18. Not just Bush.... Bloomberg is milking this for all it's worth. n/t

[smoogatz]

20. Bloomberg has no choice.

I think an attack on the NYC subway is, at some point, inevitable. And probably the best/only deterrent is a visible and aggressive security detail. But I'd be surprised as hell if Bushco was actually able to infiltrate and foil an actual attempted terroist attack--or even accurately predict when and in what form one was coming.

[npincus]

6. agree it's bogus, but don't agree w/ your logic

I don't take it for granted that terrorists are that bright.

9-11 was a mayoral Primary election day in NYC (a Tuesday)... the attacks were planned in the morning at a time when predicatablly a number of New Yorkers might be late to work in order to go to the polls. A fact which was never mentioned in the MSM.

Also, remember the terrorsits responsible for the 1st WTC bombing were busted when one of them went to collect his $400 deposit at the truck rental office (the dope had also used his real name, address, etc. on his rental application).

These folks are not necessarily geniuses, though I don't doubt some are bright. But, most criminals (and they are) are rather stupid and make mistakes which eventually lead to their discovery.

[smoogatz]

7. Good points, all.

But they seem to be getting more sophisticated with every attack. And the advantages of hitting the subway during rush hour is pretty freaking obvious, even if you're no Einstein.

[Smarmie Doofus]

19. Point taken... but I have to chuckle at the idea that....

people in the WTC... only a minority of whom lived in the city and only a minority of THOSE who were eligible to vote, and only a *tiny* minority of THOSE who would have been planning to vote in the mayoral primary... might have been spared 'til, say, Wednesday because of the primary.

Now that would be one dumb criminal conspiracy. Meticulous maybe, but DUMB.

[npincus]

23. sorry, but you're wrong that a "minority" of WTC population were NYCers

I worked at the WTC on projects there for 4 years and spent alot in the Towers- mainly Tower 2 but also Tower 1 where Port Authority Construction offices were located- and that's not right at all. Many, many were from NYC, people I knew and worked with, but of course you had folks from the tri-state area, and some from overseas. i'm also from NYC, so number of people I have known in my life ended up working there for a time- including my cousin who managed to escape from Tower 2 before it got hit (but that's another story!)

Yes, voter turnout is not as it should be, but people do participate in "big" elections and some vote before work to beat the crowds.

[carolinalady]

9. Add to the fact that the Delay and Rove stories were heating up

at the end of the week. The regime certainly did not want the media to have nothing else to discuss this weekend.
Hmmmmmmmmmmm............

[Rockholm]

12. Not to mention it's a HOLIDAY WEEKEND.

Nobody is in town anyway.

[PennyK]

13. Oh, please!

I was travelling from Boston to Penn late Thursday, and everything looked exactly s it always does. Although I didn't get into the subway (I take the LIRR home to Wantagh), I did not get the impression that anyone was doing anything differently from usual (and this was the day where they had done a lockdown to examine a package). I DID see a cute bomb sniffing pooch, though.

[TomClash]

14. They said Friday or Sunday

10/7 or 10/9.

But I'm with you. If I were a terraist, I would attack on 10/11, the day after a long weekend when plenty of people will be riding the trains.

[Cocoa]

15. two words

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-100705subway_lat,0,2926501.story?coll=la-story-footer&track=morenews

Although details of the subway threat were still sketchy, Defense Department officials revealed that the plot, which involved placing bombs in baby carriages and other containers, had originally came to light from military sources in Iraq.

[AlphaCat]

16. Hmmmm.....

I'm not sure--though that'd SEEM to make the most sense...

Didn't 9/11 happen on a Tuesday (not the busiest day of the week, by far), and BEFORE the towers had all their employees present and many of their clients?

[smoogatz]

17. Evidently, yes.

But on the other hand, they didn't attack them at 2:00 a.m. on saturday night, either. And until they actually started counting bodiesm the conventional wisdom was 10,000/plus casualties. Hell, Osama apparently didn't think the towers would collapse.

[Muddy Waters Guitar]

21. Yeah, I also thought the timing was also convenient

Bush-- in trouble over Katrina, facing disaster over Iraq, his base irate at him. So what to do? Play up the terrorist threat.

[Disturbed]

22. A set up and plausible denial.

Bushco set up the scenerio. NY officials had to do the CYA. Then Bushco downplays the situation. Bait and switch con job.