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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 12:01 PM
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WARNING: KEY RIGHT WINGERS FALLING IN LINE BEHIND HARRIET MIERS
Sorry if this is a dupe. Just heard about it on the repeat of Friday's Thom Hartmannn show

Despite some bumps in her debut courtesy of a few of the more prominent self-appointed pundits, the key right wing political operatives were all falling in line behind the nomination of Harriet Miers for Supreme Court.

Yesterday, Ken Mehlman of the RNC and Tim Goeglein from the White house office of public liason jointly hosted a mobilizing conference call with most of the key grassroots religious operatives and legal stars on the far right, including James Dobson, Richard Land, Chuck Colson, Paul Weyrich, Jay Sekulow, Leonard Leo, and Rick Warren. They are plowing full speed ahead with the nomination, regardless of what you might have heard.

CrooksAndLiars.com has obtained an audio recording of the conference call and we have prepared a rush transcript: The full transcript is below. Here is a typical chilling quote:

"He and she both understand that if she were to get on the court, and she were to rule in ways that are contrary to the way the president would want her to approach her role as a justice, it would be a deep personal betrayal, and would be perceived as such both by him and by her."


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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 12:03 PM
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1. Duh. nt
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 12:03 PM
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2. Well okay..
but would Rove come and break both her legs?
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 12:24 PM
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3. I bet she withdraws.
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Griton Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 08:27 PM
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4. And the Free Republic is imploding
It is incredible to see the spectacle in the Free Republic, it is amusing and it is a sign that the Conservatives will eat their young when they see their sand castle collapsing. More than half of the members of the Free Republic have assailed Bush and his crony nominee; however, several Bush Robots (BushBots) have made sure to expel them accusing them of DU Trolls. There is a person Howlin that runs around telling the Moderators that we have invaded their beloved wacko forum. They are in damage control as they see Bush falling apart after Katrina, Valerie Plame, Rita, Iraq and now the Miers Affaire. So, I gladly inform you that the Free Republic has been exposed for what it is: a copy and paste group of plagiarizers and right wing wackos who have nothing to do with their time. The Bush Presidency is now officially in lame duck mode. They are already attacking Limbaugh, Krauthhaummer, Kristol, Buchanan, Coulter, Noonan, all their icons now are in the dust for abandoning the failed Presidency of George Bush.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 09:14 PM
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5. I still don't get it.
Why don't some RWingers in the party trust Shrub?

Isn't it obvious that Ms Miers will vote in the SC the way Shrub would want her to?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 11:05 PM
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12. They want a fight
Earlier this past week I was going through my AM radio trying to find a local liberal station and landed upon a religious one and heard them talk about this. They want this so-called fight. They want Roe V Wade overturned and Bush isn't giving them the fight they want. To them he's being a pussy and that's why they're all fighting with each other.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 11:53 PM
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16. Howlin is a blue-haired granny...
...from flyover country who has been the most ardent supporter of Bush on FR. She has tried to rule the roost over there for years, smash-mouthing those who wobble.

Interestingly enough, JimRob has said for years that the only thing keeping him in Bush camp was the promise of court stacking. Bushco has done so many things that should have (or did) offend Robinson. I wonder how he feels now. Although I suspect he would be afraid to stop supporting Bush.
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 11:29 AM
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19. Howlin is the head bushbot
She's a total wackjob. Even real rethugs are bailing out of that place because of her viciousness. She's the Pol Pot of FRetard City.
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Muddy Waters Guitar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:08 PM
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6. Well, Dobson at least is starting to drift to the opposition column
Also, looks like Tony Perkins and Gary Bauer are vehemently against.

I dunno-- to me, it's all sweet spectacle, to see them with guns blazed against each other. It'll even get us at least a few Republican votes against Miers.

Miers must be defeated. She's little more than a Bush crony and a corporate hack, defending companies that screw consumers and the environment. The Democrats need to put up a unified front against her, with a filibuster if needed, drawing in quite a few Republican Senators who are also ticked off. It'll be Dubya's most humiliating defeat, and a well-deserved one at that. When there's blood in the water-- jump in and go on the attack. Opportunities like this don't come too often.
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pattim Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:35 PM
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9. So we 'beat' Bush on Miers. Then what?
He pushes Brown or Owen, and even if we present a united front, she passes 55-45. And what a victory that would be. Replacing an unknown potential-evil with a known evil. Or we filibuster, and then they go nuclear, and we either surrender the SCOTUS and our right to filibuster, or we become the party that shut down government during a midterm year.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:46 PM
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10. Bush doesn't have the power he would need to push
ideologues like Brown and Owen. In the next few weeks his power will be further weekened by the inevitable bad news from many fronts.

If the Dems stand up and filibuster I believe people will rally to their side. People aren't just waiting, they are begging them to act.
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pattim Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 12:47 AM
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17. Power? What do you mean by that?
His power has always flowed from his base and strictly his base. He's gotten everything he wants because so few Dems get that. He's long lost the left, and lost the middle shortly after reelection. He got Roberts through because he still had the base. And he could easily get Owen through with an intact base. It doesn't matter what public opinion is. A filibuster would lead to a Dem-imposed shutdown--mutually assured political destruction. We wouldn't filibuster in an election year. And they know it. They'd get Brown or Owen through, likely 60-40 or thereabouts. They just have to play up her qualifications, play up her gender (and potentially race) and smile a lot. Liberals might be waiting and begging for a filibuster. Nobody else is.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 10:53 AM
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18. I think bush is not seen as trustworthy anymore. His base is
eroding like the levees during Katrina. I don't think his base is accepting everything on face value anymore. I think the impending indictments will further erode his support and make it much more difficult to push his corporatist agenda.

Remember when the Republicans shut down the government, they were acting against a very popular president. By filabustering a SC nominee they are not shutting down government. They are not cutting funding for essential programs, they are just stopping bush from putting some neo fascist on the Supreme Court.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 11:07 PM
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13. I like the third option
That's why 2006 and 2008 is so important. We have to take back the House and Senate and until then all we can do is try our best to fight them back. I think it's smart to make them "eat" each other and get mad at each other so they'd spend all this time fighting instead of doing things and then 2006 will be here before we know it.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:29 PM
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7. The theocratic radicalright loves her
The neoconnivers hate her.

Krystalcon
Krauthammercon
Buchanan paleocon
Tony Porkins-con

All hate her. I bet this is a conserva-pig schism.
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pattim Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:32 PM
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8. Will, Buchanan, Limbaugh, Krauthammer, Kristol, Coulter, Noonan...
That's nothing compared to the likes of Dobson, Land, Colson, Weyrich, etc. What's the difference? People have heard of people in the *against* column.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 11:02 PM
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11. It sounds like to me
that Bush screwed up listening to Reid and now they're trying to save his ass before it's time for the hearings with the committee. They want to get as much information out as they can about her so it won't come up in the committee and other things. But I think Bush nominated her for his own personal reasons. Why else would he nominate his personal lawyer? :eyes: They're just trying to "calm" the base since it looks bad that they're not united and give ammunition for the democrats. This is why I think Dobson came out. I don't think he knows anything at all.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 11:17 PM
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14. I'm sniffing a conserva-pig civil war!
They have turned cannibal.

Neocannibal that is.

The religious right love the fundy and the neocons want an intellectual beacon--and all they got was bacon.
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Edgewater_Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 11:23 PM
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15. Did You Hear Any Of The Talk Shows This Morning?
They were all -- yes, even Fox -- using Miers as a pinata.

Buchanan just trashing her on MTP, Spector demanding to hear from Dobson on FTN, George Will looking like he lost a friend on Steffie, and even Gary Bauer breathing fire on Fox.

I'm thinking more and more she's not going to even make it to the hearings, much less get confirmed.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 01:01 PM
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20. it's all about a personal allegiance (what would Alexander Hamilton say)
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 01:35 PM
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21. Coulter still hates it.
Edited on Mon Oct-10-05 01:35 PM by Tiggeroshii
Losing coulter is a clear sign they're really running into some issues...
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 01:43 PM
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22. I agree.
Edited on Mon Oct-10-05 01:44 PM by jenmito
I REALLY wish Miers would get confirmed with ALL the Dems.' votes and just enough Repubs. to make it. If she doesn't make it, does anyone think we'll get someone WE like MORE? We should be thankful his choice demoralized so many Repubs...just read the Freeper site!
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