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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 10:22 PM
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"The Plame/CIA leak case is getting what all good scandals need: props".
The Nation
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/capitalgames?bid=3&pid=28125

Rove Scandal: New Mysteries, New Props, New Legal Theories

The Plame/CIA leak case is getting what all good scandals need: props.

We now have the "missing notebook" and the "missing email." The "missing notebook," as several news reports noted at the end of last week, belongs to New York Times reporter Judith Miller and reportedly contains notes of a conversation regarding former Ambassador Joseph Wilson that she had with Scooter Libby, Dick Cheney's chief of staff, on June 25, 2003. The date is intriguing, for this is weeks before Wilson published his now famous New York Times op-ed piece (in which he revealed that after traveling to Niger for the CIA he had concluded that the allegation that Iraq had been uranium shopping there was dubious). And, of course, this was weeks before Robert Novak wrote a column outing Wilson's wife as an undercover CIA officer. So why were the two discussing Wilson at that point? Why did this notebook go missing within the paper's Washington bureau? Who found it? Miller or someone else? Why won't the Times explain to its readers how it came to be discovered? What do the notes in this notebook say?

The Case of the Missing Notebook does prompt much pondering. As Greg Mitchell of Editor & Publisher listed a set of questions raised by the missing notebook in his own column: linkhttp://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/columns/pressingissues_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001263179

<<snip>>

On to the other new prop. This past weekend, Newsweek's Michael Isikoff reported that Karl Rove's return to the grand jury (for visit No. 4) was caused by the "White House's handling of a potentially crucial e-mail sent by senior aide Karl Rove two years ago." Apparently, when Rove was first interviewed by FBI agents and when he first appeared before Patrick Fitzgerald's grand jury, he neglected to mention his July 11, 2003, conversation with Time's Matt Cooper, in which he told Cooper that Wilson's wife worked at the CIA. But after that first grand jury appearance, Rove's lawyer, Robert Luskin, according to Isikoff's report, found an email Rove had sent on July 11 that referred to his conversation with Cooper. Rove then went back to the grand jury to discuss his July 11 chat with Cooper. I suppose Rove merely needed to have his memory refreshed.

The Newsweek report doesn't make clear what this missing email has to do with Rove's latest trip to the grand jury room. But it does seem that this visit may be connected to possible discrepancies between Rove's and Cooper's account of their conversation

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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 10:30 PM
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1. All These Missing "Missings" Scare Me Into Thinking That Rove...
and company have put together an alibi for themselves. There has been too much time for them to canoodle there way out of this. I trust that Fitzgerald knows what he is doing - so I'll keep my fingers crossed.

But look at Delay. He has now turned the tables on his accusers - wonder how that will go down as well.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 10:33 PM
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2. and frist as well n/t
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 06:43 AM
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4. Delay has done what most cornered animals will do.
He has attacked. Whether this will get any heat off his back depends on the depth of shit and corruption extant in Congress. Either way, most of his credibility has turned to slug slime.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 02:42 PM
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8. what credibility?
he alyays was slug slime.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 07:22 AM
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9. You knew he was slug slime, and I did, now the GOP does.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:05 AM
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13. now everybody must find out!! n/t
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 11:33 PM
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3. Did you read the comments following the article? Amazing.
The long posts by "Plunger". Check it out.
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 09:49 AM
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5. Not seeing the comments section; where? thx.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 12:49 PM
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6. click on...
top link in thread, then scroll dow to bottom.
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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 12:53 PM
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7. End the War in Denver this Saturday
Can we end the war in Iraq from Denver this Saturday? I don't know. I've never been to Denver before. But we can try to do our bit. Congressman Dennis Kucinich of Ohio will be the keynote speaker.

I'll be talking about the Downing Street Memo.

Sign up here:
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Peace!
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GayCanuck Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 07:28 AM
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10. I'm a bit in the dark
being that our media up here doesn't cover the Plamegate story much; but a question:

Who actually commissioned Ambassador Wilson to go to Niger? It's intimated that Cheney did. Is that true? If not, who did; I can't find anything that states who actually sent him. Was he on your government's payroll or was he merely contracting with them?
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:02 AM
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12. CIA
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 08:47 AM
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11. In the law, we call those "props" evidence. n/t
Gyre
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