If BushCo go down Bliar might also be going down

[McKenzie]

I have not thought about the implications for Bliar if there indictments, and what they might lead to, at length; not yet anyway. Nevertheless, if the lies behind the Iraq War finally become public Bliar is going to be in a tricky position to say the least.

Did he conspire with the neocons to plunge the UK into the conflict? In that case he is possibly guilty of treason. If he was duped by their lies he must have a worrying lack of judgement.

Either way Bliar must be a little worried by the current events surrounding Rove et al.

[leveymg]

1. And, our Mid-East friends. Don't forget Sharon and the Saudi moneymen.

Likudite spooks and agents of influence have been at the very center of the neocon cabal in Washington. None of this could have happened without them. When BushCo sinks, Likud's getting sucked down with it.

Let us not also forget the illegal flow of Saudi and Gulf petrodollars into American politics that has for years fertilized the BushCo cabal, Republican spookocracy, and Grover Norquist's K Street shock troops. That's the next Big Target for federal prosecutors.

May they can all share and enjoy the best that America's federal prisons have to offer.

[whatever4]

6. Please please please let some of them wind up in a prison

in New York. A nice, average facility in a big blue state. Now THAT would be justice :) I think having the responsibility and honor of keeping the traitors to our nation would help boost the morale of the folks living there, I really do, I think it would be worth any extra effort it took to make it happen. Make it happen. MIHOP.

[leveymg]

8. You'll like this idea: an open air stockade in lower Manhattan at the

site of the WTC. Allow the public to get up close, like in the old Central Park Zoo.

Sentence the lot of them to one day for each of the 3,000 who perished due to the Bush Administration's negligent homicide on 9/11. Another day for every serviceman in Iraq. A third day for each victim who died after the levies broke in New Orleans.

Don't feed the animals.

[paineinthearse]

2. Whatever happened to MP Kennedy's motion of no confidence?

I believe it was attached to the Queen's Parliament opening speech.

:shrug:

[EuroObserver]

3. BLiar's lies are already quite well documented,

don't you think? But in spite of the 'Downing Street Memos' was reelected, since most people who still bother to vote in the UK could see no real alternative.

BLiar certainly should be sent down, for a looong time.

Actually, the way I saw it at the time, it was BLiar who really needed something like the Nigerien yellowcake story in order to falsify the supposed justification for invasion. "Saddam can nuke us, here at home, in 45 minutes," the average Brit was told, just at the right moment. Parliament "debated" and gave BLiar the vote he (legally) needed based on these lies.

Much, much more serious than Thatcher's war crime sinking the Belgrano.

I think it's up to us to see that this happens. There's still time...

Unfortunately, there is very little democracy in the British system. It's an 'elective' (by a minority) dictatorship with no written constitution and the politician who occupìes the post of Home Secretary (interior minister) simultaneously functions as some kind of Supreme Court all by him- or herself. There is no seperation of legislative-executive powers at that level. Seems to me the Brits (and I'm one) have always relied on the 'establishment' deciding, from time to time, that there's a bad apple in power who needs to be thrown out (ie. pushed upstairs: give him knighthood, a seat in the Lords, whatever, but no real power).

There must be few people more self-delusional than us Brits.

[LaPera]

4. Blair is very smart...Bush is a corporate stupid, a spokesmen, a robot...

no comparison!

:smoke:

[Benhurst]

5. There is one point of comparison: they are both totally ruthless war

criminals.

[beingthere]

7. you are so right. Blair

comes off with more class, but it's deceptive.

[Spurt]

9. Bliar with the faux president......

.....of Iraq a week or so ago on BBC World, wasn't displaying his usual class at all.

I've no particular skills in interpreting body language, but Bliar was a different man from any I've seen in those shoes before.
His posture was different, hands, voice, eyes, the lot.
His performance was flat. He looked like a spent man. Dead charisma.
Talked a load of crap anyway.

Maybe he'll fall over and somebody else can have a go at cleaning up his international messes.

[ikri]

10. Unless he was directly involved

Blair will have no problems.

In fact, if * is having serious troubles Blair can simply publicly ditch him which would raise his popularity in the UK and across most of the world.

This could offer Blair his get out clause. He'd throw the blame on the trust and friendship he had with *, which of course would have been irrevocably broken with the news of these lies. Blair walks out looking like the wronged party and his popularity would rise.

[Spurt]

11. He was directly involved.

Remember Bliars famous dossier.
He went to parliament and declared that the case was robust and all the data was in order, based on that dossier which is full of garbage.

Read the Downing St Minutes.

UK shared in the bombing build up before the war ie pre-empted decision making.

USA claims that some of the faux intelligence used in their case for war was donated by UK.

And more....


How can it be said that he was not involved?
Any national leader is by duty deeply involved in any decision to go to war.
Bliar told the same lies Shrub did. Orchestrated.