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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 08:41 AM
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What exactly would need to be done to reverse all this crap?
and who could get the job done? I may have missed this topic before, since I actually do sleep and do work, but what would an incoming responsible Prez./Congress need to do to reverse all this crap? Say we take both the House, Senate and the Presidency, is any policy that * implemented or any of the laws that this "culture of corruption" administration have passed be considered "unreversible"?

I really don't know where we stand on that. I *KNOW* they should be reversible, but maybe wording was put in that will prohibit that. Does any DUer know for sure?

I want a Conyers/Boxer ticket with maybe Clark as Secretary of Defense and Carper as head of the EPA. What about Kerry as Attorney General or head of the Justice Dept? What would be your dream appointments?
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proReality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 08:48 AM
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1. We'll need...
to click our heels together, while saying: There's no place like home. There's no place like home. There's...

Or maybe a magic wand?


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adwon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 08:51 AM
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2. Don't worry
There's no such thing as an irreversible law. Well, some may be politically impossible to fight, but Congress can do what it likes to the legislation it's passed.
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 08:57 AM
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3. That's actually two main questions you are looking to discuss.
One being what to do, and the next being, who to do it.

I have a dream ticket and its Gore/Clark, but we are talking dream, so it's easy to throw it out there without too much debate about the reality of Gore running, which is on endless threads here.

The former question is exciting though, and I haven't seen too much discussion around here about it. I could have missed it, as I haven't spent too much time involved in threads about "fixing" things, since I'm busy reading about the mess/messes we are in as of right now... so many that it's almost impossible to keep up.

I guess in one area, I would just like to add this thought. I think a MASSIVE humanitarian effort from the citizens of this country ought to be put in place, for Iraq. Schooling, nursing, building, reconnecting and making retribution to the Iraqi citizens for as long as it takes to convince them, most of the American citizens were not complicit in this disgusting "choice war" this administration had. We need to show them that we condemn and not condone what has happened to them, and make up for what we can make up for, and ask for forgiveness for the rest that we will NEVER be able to fix.

Now, I don't know if it would ever be safe for our citizens to show up and do this, or if this is a "fantasy" plan, just like a "fantasy" appointment.

I just could only imagine, pulling our troops out and dropping over a million citizens in there to "stay the RIGHT course" and become human again instead of "destroyers".

**I reserve the right to "IMAGINE", permission granted by Lennon, many years ago.
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 08:59 AM
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4. Well...
we'ed need, beyond both houses of Congress and the Presidency:

-A timely conservative SCOTUS justice's retirement (this probably requires someone to die but I don't like wishing death on anybody...even Thomas or Scalia)

- A media that does it's job and reports the news and not every sensationalist story down the pike. (Someday, I dream the media will be not-for-profit and we'll all wonder how we ever got news before that)

-Lawmakers with cajones. Another terror attack is inevitable, but the minute it happens, every GOP pundit in America will start screaming that the recinded USA Patriot Act would have prevented it, whether true or not.

As for the campaign: I like (scratch that, love(platonically)) Conyers but a Conyers/Boxer ticket isn't going to win. _______/Conyers probably would. I'd prefer Clark for State, it's a more important position and as the former SACEUR (Military Head of NATO) he already has the connections in Europe to heal those relationships. I'll agree to Kerry for AG if I can have Laurence Lessig for an Asst. AG. or the next SCOTUS post.
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 09:07 AM
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5. Well, can you be more specific about which policies/laws/bills?
I think it's a good question, too; I expect it depends what we're talking about.

Things that were decided by the President alone can obviously be reversed by the next Pres, just as Bush reversed a lot of what Clinton himself did. I *think* things like the gag rule on birth control/abortion for U.S.-funded helping agencies abroad are among those.

If they pass a bill allowing drilling in the Arctic, say, I don't know what it would take to reverse that, especially if they've already started drilling.

And of course, it's a lot harder to take back the Iraq war now, isn't it, or even stop it.

Things like funding cuts to near-dying remnants of the New Deal (and descendants) can be restored. If an entire structure is made extinct--say, if they managed to starve the NEA (or god forbid Social Security, though that's looking less and less likely) completely to death instead of just leaving it on life support--it would be a lot harder to recreate it from scratch. Depending on how vigorous and numerous a majority we had, I suppose, it might be possible and even necessary to do just that. That would also depend on the general climate, and how far we've collectively fallen in the meantime.

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ecoalex Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 09:48 AM
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6. With the fracturing DLC NOTHING will be reversed
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 09:54 AM
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7. It doesn't matter who wins the next election because..
Just like the Great Depression, it will take years and perhaps, decades, to recover from the damage done by these radical extremists calling themselves Repubicans.
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