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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 12:29 PM
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Will Bush lash out once the indictments come down?
I see this as a big possibility -- Bush doing something really stupid in response to indictments.

He might pardon everyone, the way the governor of Kentucky just did. That would essentially be the end of his presidency.

Or he might try to have Fitzgerald fired -- a la Nixon's Saturday Night Massacre. Again, poof goes the presidency.

Or he might go to the mattresses -- leave his indicted aides in office and wage war on Fitzgerald.

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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 12:34 PM
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1. He doesn't seem to like being pResident anyway.
Aside from the tantrum he will throw when he finds out he is not the boss of everything, he could be cajoled into happy retirement.

Would rather see him in jail too, but dare not get my hopes up on that issue. Will be nice just to see some of the players go down. Bigger the better. These people have subverted every principle on democracy and preverted what America stands for.

They go down as the traitors and thugs they are.

What happens to the poster boy is not really that big a deal.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 12:35 PM
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2. He and Rove will desperately try to smear Fitzgerald.
Gonna be tough to sell that to a jury though. The court of public opinion suddenly seems to lose significance when you are facing a court of law.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 12:35 PM
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3. Hopefully He'll Off Himself
and save the world.
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 01:17 PM
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10. Or at least have a nice loud breakdown.
In public. Live on TV. Handcuffs, straightjacket, either one works for me.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 01:36 PM
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14. That Would Be Better
the straightjacket is appropriate.

:toast:
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 01:18 PM
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11. Or at least have a nice loud breakdown.
In public. Live on TV. Handcuffs, straightjacket, either one works for me.
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 01:40 PM
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15. Sorry about the double post. nt.
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 12:37 PM
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4. Hmmm take to the mattresses?
I think either way his presidency's done with. thank god our prosecutor's a man of inttegrity though...
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 12:52 PM
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9. Sure
The corporate party will dry up and blow away. Fat F*cking chance.
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 12:38 PM
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5. There is only a consequence to Bush

if there are enough Republicans with integrity in the House and Senate to hold him responsible. Based upon recent experience, that seems doubtful.

What happens to a Republican Congress that doesn't do so is another question. Will they act out of political self-interest and survival (or the fear thereof) where their consciences don't motivate them ?
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 12:39 PM
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6. Limbaugh and Hannity will start attacking Fitz
they'll find some loose connections to Democratic politicians and look for tenuous "evidence" of partisan witch-hunts. Ironically it will be Rove giving out these talking points. I can't see Bush getting rid of Karl just yet. Should Rove wind up in jail then Karen Hughes will probably fill in because she is the only other figure in the Bush Administration who can make him over and sell him to the public in a way that benefits
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 12:41 PM
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7. Keep in mind that Bush is the biggest coward on Earth
Let that guide you. He is a little sissy-boy who has run from every single fight in his life, letting others fight his battles for him.

Mattresses aren't in the picture for this wimp. He will unleash the pardons, keep all his buddies on board, and let THEM fight for their careers and lives for his remaining time in office.
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afdip Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 12:42 PM
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8. i'd like to hear him humming the theme from "mash"
you know, "suicide is painless."
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 01:26 PM
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12. Get the pardon machine up and running
I see Bush issuing pardons for crimes, real and imagined, to practically everyone involved. Then leaning back with a sneer and daring anyone to do something about it. Meanwhile, the always dependable mighty Republican Wurlitzer will wheeze into overdrive about what a bold and courageous move the president just executed--er, made, and how it clears everything up for a glorious second term, better than anyone else's, ever. Except maybe for St. Ronnie.

Then we will see once again if the Fourth Estate is more interested in reportage or sycophancy. So far, I make it Sycophants 2,347,414, Reportage -3.
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 02:09 PM
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16. He'll have to issue pardons
or some of the soon-to-be-felons will flip and rat him out.
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 01:33 PM
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13. I don't think we'll be seeing much of Bush
from now on. He will stay as well hidden as possible.So we won't get treated to a grand finale in the form of a foaming-at-the-mouth flameout, much to my personal regret.
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 02:13 PM
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17. Jonathan Alter on Air America
just said a bit ago that the odds do not favor indictments. Missed his reasoning - had to leave the car and come inside. Haven't turned them on my computer yet.

Best not to count on any indictments before they are hatched.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 02:23 PM
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18. Most probably. He ran for office to *save* his family's name
but has run it into the ground, hopefully forever. He'll try to do something to try to save either his name or himself. I just keep thinking back to that Gail Shehee article in Vanity Fair (2000?) where she talked about how he hated to lose and would want "do-overs" until he won. I still see that fucked up little kid in him now. I think it is part of his personality and he's too old and screwed up to change.

His dad pardoned most of the Iran-Contra gang so it wouldn't surprise me if he did the same thing and then tried to hold on to the office as long as possible. He may single-handedly bring the GOP crashing down around him.

I can dream can't I?
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 03:08 PM
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19. Yes I think that some aggressive and out of control behavior is likely.
The more pressure he is under the worse he will get.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 03:56 PM
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21. I agree
He'll behave like a very dangerous child having a tantrum.

It will be a scary time for the entire world. We'd best be careful while celebrating. He won't go down calmly.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 04:03 PM
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23. Yes you are correct. This could be the most dangerous time.
The end game. He will be cornered and alone.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 03:16 PM
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20. They will have a hard time attacking Fitzgerald. He is not a political
animal and he was appointed by Bush's Deputy Attorney General after Ashcroft recused himself. Sorry wing nuts, that one will not fly (not that they won't try anyway.)

Patrick Fitzgerald, a career prosecutor who is the US attorney in Chicago, will have the authority to make all prosecutorial decisions -- including issuing subpoenas, granting immunity to witnesses, or bringing charges -- without first consulting his bosses at the Justice Department, Deputy Attorney General James Comey announced.

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win_in_06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 04:02 PM
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22. He might blame all mistakes on KKKarl and try to absolve blame
"I was betrayed! A crook in my midst! Who knew?"
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