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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 02:45 PM
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Sweet Schadenfreude
This suspense may giving me the heebie-jeebies, but it’s really killing the media.

No one knows who’ll be indicted by Patrick Fitzgerald, but you have to think there's more than smoke there. Though the Harriet Miers story could play out in any of a dozen ways, all of them are delicious. Frist, Delay, Blunt, Ney and the rest of Jack Abramoff’s butt-boys could actually be in their last throes, and we're not talking Cheney-like wishful thinking here.

It’s really possible that right now, before our eyes, unfolding in slow motion, is a sordid, jaw-dropping story that connects everything from Bolton to Dobson, GannonGuckert to HannityO'Reilly, Florida in 2000 to Ohio in 2004, Enron to Halliburton, lies about the Texas Air National Guard to lies about WMDs. Twenty minutes ago, to hear the media tell it, Rove & Co were geniuses, presiding over a generational shift to the right. Now, they’re lawyering themselves to the gills, and beltway speculation centers on whether the GOP could lose both the House and the Senate in 2006. Yesterday, you had to be some tinfoil hat-wearing Michael Moore type to connect the dots; tomorrow, conceivably, exposing the grand conspiracy will be a recipe for a Pulitzer.

Much as the mainstream media pretend to be disinterested, or even skeptical, the narrative they’ve spun until now has been fawning. They love power, and they love to be loved by the powerful. But Valerie, Terri, Cindy, Katrina and Harriet have finally forced the chattering class to unstrap its kneepads and radically rewrite the story. No one knows how this will all end. But the possibility that the potentates and pundits they’ve slobbered over these past five years will turn out to be perp-walkers and propagandists has forced the media machine to wake up and smell Karl’s Kool-Aid. Their revisionism will be effortless; they’ll retroactively have seen this coming all along. Old conventional wisdom: Oval Office blowjobs means the century of the values voter. New conventional wisdom: Monica was a molehill. Throw the bums out.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marty-kaplan/sweet-schadenfreude_b_8743.html
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 02:47 PM
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1. It's almost as suspenseful as an OJ verdict...
;-)
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 02:49 PM
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3. which was decided on by a jury
It won't be Fitzpatrick issuing the indictments, it will be the grand jury. What if they suck?
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 02:50 PM
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4. lolololololololololololol
:rofl:

:hi:
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 02:49 PM
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2. Not to mention the defendants.
"This suspense may giving me the heebie-jeebies, but it’s really killing the media."

Take your time Fitz and get it right.

It's one less day they have to start a war, screw up Social Security and lie about something else.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 02:52 PM
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5. I can see how frustrated they all are that "There's NO leaks!"
I can't tell you how many times I've heard the comment "it's so unusual in Washington, but Fits has NO LEAKS!".

I'm glad! I hope all attorney's decide this is the right way to do their job!
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 02:52 PM
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6. It just feels like its going to be way more serious than anyone's imagined
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 02:52 PM
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7. I really hope you aren't letting yourself in for a letdown
I sure would love to see the whole bunch in flames (figuratively, of course) but I don't know if anyone can connect those well hidden and lawyered dots.

But we can hope.

And yet... I remember Election night. Remember, there is more to life than politics. We are making huge strides regardless of how many are indicted.

I am so afraid if we hear soon that the case is closed with no indictments some of my friends here won't survive the anguish and frustration.

Can you tell I'm a mother??
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 02:57 PM
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9. thanks for bringing me back to reality,
Mom :D

:hi:
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 03:33 PM
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16. And let's not forget...
Edited on Wed Oct-12-05 03:34 PM by Love Bug
indictments are one thing, the trials are another. Even if the whole lot of them get indicted doesn't mean they'll be convicted. The waiting game has just started....
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 02:55 PM
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8. Counting chickens
Before y'all get caught up in gloating and like that, you might want to stop and consider the reality of it, which is:

that no one knows anything about what's been going on with the Fitzgerald investigation;

that it's entirely possible that no indictments will be returned;

that celebrating before anything happens is just asking the universe to deliver a big, fat cream pie to the closest face.

All anyone knows is that the investigation is ongoing. That's it. The rest is all uninformed speculation, since not one leak - unheard of in the 30 years I've spent as a Washington lawyer - has emerged from Fitzgerald's camp.

So, while you're preparing to celebrate, prepare just as enthusiastically for an announcement of no indictments.

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Mr Rabble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 03:01 PM
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11. Very possible indeed. No telling what is happening here.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 03:01 PM
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12. Yes, because so much has happened
that makes 2006 possible for us. Indictments would be nice but we can win without them.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 03:10 PM
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15. You just activated my worst nightmare
which is this scenario:

Fitzgerald finds no evidence of wrongdoing, closes up shop, issues his report, finis;

DeLay beats both raps in Texas;

Frist ducks any wrongdoing allegations.

If those three things happen (and Frist is a far less important factor than the first two), then the Republicans - I predict - will come back with even more power and force.

Vindication is the most unassailable propaganda extant.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 04:31 PM
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18. No....
First the law of averages. Not all of them can escape.

Next, the law of "we're tired of the same old guys" will give us impetus in 06.

Also, I have read that the whole Christian evangelical movement is calming down. I think it has run its course. These movements have a finite life.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 05:41 PM
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19. Don't I wish......................
I hope you're right, but all my years practicing law have taught me that there is no such thing as "The Law Of Averages" where grand juries - or juries of any kind - are concerned. So, as I said, it's still a vast unknown.

I don't agree that a negative foundation gives Democrats any kind of impetus in '06. What the Democrats need to have is their own message and their own leaders. Having as our slogan "We're not them" is hardly a powerful platform.

No movement involving religion ever dies. Witness the Middle East.

I hope indictments come out, but I've been around too long to get worked up in either direction. As for the Democratic leadership, well, so far, I'd be happy just to see a viable Democrat with a message and a spine. And as for the WildAss Christians, they'll never stop.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 02:58 PM
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10. My favorite part
"...before our eyes, unfolding in slow motion, is a sordid, jaw-dropping story that connects everything from Bolton to Dobson, GannonGuckert to HannityO'Reilly, Florida in 2000 to Ohio in 2004, Enron to Halliburton, lies about the Texas Air National Guard to lies about WMDs.

I'm starting to believe it. It's all connected. It's the same bunch of crooks.

They're all connected at the Rove.
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 03:04 PM
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13.  but it’s really killing the media.
I don't understand why the MSM can not get these points across to the public, its espionage,treason, conspiracy, and just plain un american. For christ sakes, we have a B=rated movie being produced right before our very eyes. They did not have a problem reporting it, when it was sex. I'm ashamed that the media, has brought about and contributed to the dumbing down of Americans.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 03:06 PM
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14. It certainly feels like the calm before the storm, doesn't it?
When the focus seemed to only be on Libby and Rove for the outing of Ms. Plame, it definitely put a smile on my face. Now that we're looking at the very real possibility of uncovering a large conspiracy to push for war in Iraq, I'm filled with a deep anger and resentment at these people. I'm sure I'll take a few minutes and engage in a happy dance when the indictments come, but at the end of the day, their actions will be a huge stain on the history of this country.

Soldiers are dead. Iraqi's are dead. People are still dying over this. Cindy Sheehan belongs to a club of grieving families that gets bigger and bigger every day. And the tears and anger over Binka's sweet son getting harmed? It's too much for me...I can't begin to imagine what her family is going through and has been going through for the past several days. I have a child that I can't help but hug a little bit harder and a little bit longer after reading what Binka is going through. And for what? Lies. Profit. Power.

All the protesting, all the anger, all the false hopes that someone powerful enough in the Bush administration could have stopped this war before it began. Powell? No. Wilson? He spoke the truth when no one else would. Richard Clark? Paul O'Neil? They did their best but it was too little too late. Even with all my vanity and ego, I never wanted to be right about this. And here I am. Right about everything.

The indictments will be fun, but cleaning up the mess will not. A small group of bastards have tarnished this nation and a lot of people let them. The MSM and many Democrats share some of the blame. We have a lot of work ahead of us and while seeing the bastards fall will be gratifying, it will not erase my anger.
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 03:34 PM
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17. I sent you a post on Binka and Ben
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 06:33 PM
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20. thank you for that
I'm looking forward to hearing more updates. I remember her post when she first found out that Ben had to go to Iraq and the updates from then on. In a small way, I feel like DU is truly experiencing this with her and it is painful...not to be compared to what her family is going through, but it still hurts.
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