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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 07:18 AM
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When asked how the United States would have been different if he had become president, though, he had harsh criticism for Bush's policies.

"We would not have invaded a country that didn't attack us," he said, referring to Iraq. "We would not have taken money from the working families and given it to the most wealthy families."

"We would not be trying to control and intimidate the news media. We would not be routinely torturing people," Gore said. "We would be a different country."

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20051012/D8D6N2081.html

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If only he knew how to run a campaign in 2000, and fight the results...if only.
:mad:
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 07:19 AM
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1. Damn, that hurts. n/t
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win_in_06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 07:23 AM
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2. Given the way he feels I don't see how he couldn't run.
I'm sure that he will.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 07:28 AM
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3. Sad and sobering, but...
Edited on Thu Oct-13-05 07:32 AM by marmar
probably very true. The November 2000 election was one of those "fork in the road" moments. Sadly, you know which direction we took.

:cry:
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 07:31 AM
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5. My top 4 forks
When industrial hemp was criminalized at the turn of century.
When Raygun was elected.
When the Cons took over Congress.
When Gore lost and chimp took over.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 08:00 AM
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10. We are so forked.
Hey, Bush! Fork you!
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:44 AM
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16. Gore did not lose
* stole it
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:48 AM
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17. What I was thinking, too
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 07:29 AM
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4. so true, so true
Edited on Thu Oct-13-05 07:33 AM by goddess40
1962 service people would still be alive, thousands wouldn't be physically maimed for life and hundreds of thousands wouldn't be harmed by the horrible things they've seen and by having to kill innocent people to survive.
We really don't know how many innocent Iraqis would still be alive because this administration doesn't see them as people so they aren't worth the effort to count.

Our economy wouldn't be in the tank either!

edit: I believe both Gore and Kerry got really shitty campaign advice. (Kerry should have known better after seeing what Terry M. did to Gore.) I have a lot of faith in Dean to really push things in the right direction next year. It will be tough because the Republicans have so much experience in stealing elections but it isn't insurmountable.

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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 07:34 AM
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7. burns me up...
that he was so "polite" and didn't fight harder.
Also, I read his book "Earth In The Balance" and was dismayed at his 8 years and not one word regarding industrial hemp.

I really need to take some deep breathes and move on.
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Liberal Dose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 07:31 AM
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6. If only ONE Senator had the guts to stand up for the Black Caucus...n/t
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 07:36 AM
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8. so true
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Nordmadr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 07:41 AM
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9. You know, I posted about his quote of not intending to run and
the more I think about it, and see what he is saying, I actually beleive he will run. As others have pointed out, it WOULD be silly for him to put himself up there so soon and open himself up to major criticism early from the Republican side. Look at how nasty they are in their responses to his comments here.


...Tracey Schmitt, spokeswoman for the Republican National Committee, called Gore's comments "fictitious rants that border on dangerous."

He is practically calling him a traitor. Mad, you are damn skippy we are mad. Anyone who is paying attention at what is happening in this country and is not mad, truly has no clue...or since of the purpose of the government to do for it's people what they can not do for themselves.

Gore was my President, Gore is my President, and Gore will be my President. The man knows what he is talking about. The man has poise. The man has vision.

I am not a Christian. I do not know if there is any God entity out there, but as I lay in bed last night before drifting off to sleep, I prayed to whatever is out there for two things.

1) I prayed Gore would win the Presidency.
2) I prayed he would have the strength and vision to do it right.

I believe both of those will happen.

Olaf
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 02:01 PM
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20. Well said olafvikingr,
I believe Al never gave up on the American People and I will never give up on him. When it comes to statesmanship and vision, I believe Al is head and shoulders above the rest.
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MemphisTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 08:07 AM
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11. I miss that man
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 08:34 AM
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12. What a tragedy the 2000 debacle was
this man would have made a great President.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:50 AM
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18. Worst in history of the United States! The tragedy, I mean.....
of the stolen elections!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 09:02 AM
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13. For him to run again he will need to be overwhelmingly "drafted"
by the people. And...it could happen. :-)

But, we aren't going to know for a long while. :-(
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 10:44 AM
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14. He fought the results for six weeks all the way up to the Supreme Court...
with the rest of the Democratic Party telling him, "Give it up." No backing, no support. Even his own running mate told him it was over. What more do you want?
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:43 AM
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15. Which Only RAISES His Stock Value with Me...
...because he didn't listen to his "advisors", but rather to those who turned out to cast their votes for him come hell or high-water; to those whose voices are now silenced by corporate media, and to those he has cared deeply for from the very beginning, and even before, despite Democratic Party advice!.

As I watched the entire */Repuke coup unfold in 2000, I couldn't help but feel intense pride and a solidifying conviction that Al Gore is truly a REAL leader as he stuck to his guns nearly all alone, and abandoned, and truly earned being the leader America so deserves, and now desperately needs because of it, and today, with hindsight being 20/20 and my gut-feeling vindicated, America needs Al Gore more than ever to take the reins and lead us all back the right way.

His strength, Democratic values and convictions (the same ones the majority in Congress had suddenly developed amnesia for these days, it seems), thick-skinnedness and tough, resolute ways, all attest to him being "the One"--and hopefully the "do-nothing" Democrats will come to realize this in the coming three years, and they'll cease and desist their stonewalling his path to the house he rightfully, and fairly won, and earned in 2000.

Hopefully with the man he backed in last Presidential Election now at the helm of the DNC (and that useless multimillionaire Terry McAuliffe--who refused to back his run last time--HISTORY) and enough Americans crying out for his return, the DNC will back him this time around.

Hope. Hope. Hope...
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:57 AM
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19. A "woulda, coulda, shoulda" ?
I adore Al Gore, though not sure why he wanted to put distance between his campaign and Clinton in 2000 ? IMHO, "shoulda, woulda, coulda" made a difference? The DNC could have kicked serious ass against the prodigal dim son.

It was a terrible campaign w/o cajones. They should have taken a hint from the South Carolina McCain trashing too. Just my opinion, I could be wrong...and still waiting for DNC spine :(
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 02:50 PM
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21. It was a great campaign considering,
he came from 20 points prior to the convention and passed Bush in polls, winning the popular as well as the electoral vote.

Considering that his boss had just been impeached allowing an intern to perform oral sex on him in the oval office and then had the nerve to take what seemed like a self aggrandizing 15 minute walk down a hallway during the convention that was to nominate Al for President, when instead he could have been using that precious air time promoting Al from the lectern! These actions tell me that it was Clinton that abandoned Al, not the other way around. Maybe he was thinking then that he wanted Hillary for President.

Rove knew that the only way that Bush could win was for them to tie Al Gore to Clinton, because Clinton's integrity, especially in the moderate/conservative areas of the nation was in shambles. The corpwhorate owned so called liberal media Washington Post/New York Times did their share cooperating with the neocons by trying to tear Al's integrity down by continuously repeating the slanders that "he claimed to have invented the internet" among others instead of giving the man credit for his accomplishments ( he did not win a webbie for nothing you know). At the same time the corpwhorate owned MSM totally enabled Bush to power by glossing over or ignoring any misstatements or lies that he spewed during the debates, they even turned a 180 overnight over ruling their own focus groups and them selves (Jeff Greenfield comes to mind for one) as to who won those debates.

The fact that Al won the popular vote and the electoral vote in spite of the fact that he was running against not only Bush but the corpwhorate owned MSM that sold out the American People speaks well of him. Unfortunately for Al and the American People, they also had the Republican controlled U.S. Supreme Court working against determininng the intent of it's own citizens.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 03:06 PM
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22. Thanks Uncle Joe....
Al did win the popular vote, funny, nobody..from the Dem team.. in the House and Senate have acknowledged this since 2000 ? Probably why you and I are still hanging from a thread here? A DU thread here!
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