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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 08:25 AM
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NYT: Democrats See Dream of '06 Victory Taking Form
Edited on Thu Oct-13-05 08:28 AM by Pirate Smile
Published: October 13, 2005

WASHINGTON, Oct. 12 - Suddenly, Democrats see a possibility in 2006 they have long dreamed of: a sweeping midterm election framed around what they describe as the simple choice of change with the Democrats or more of an unpopular status quo with the Republican majority.

That sense of political opportunity has Democratic operatives scrambling to recruit more candidates in Congressional districts that look newly favorable for Democratic gains, to overcome internal divisions and produce an agenda they can carry into 2006, and to raise the money to compete across a broader field. In short, the Democrats are trying to be ready if, in fact, an anti-incumbent, 1994-style political wave hits.

-snip-
Reflecting that shift in assessments, Democrats are preparing for a midterm with broad, national themes and possibilities - like 1982, 1986 and 1994. Democratic leaders from the House, the Senate, the national party and representatives of mayors and governors have met periodically to try to produce their own campaign agenda for 2006, which they hope to unveil early next year, strategists and senators said.

That agenda will deal with energy independence, broader access to health care and college education, government reform, economic security and - the most divisive issue for the Democrats - Iraq and national security, Democratic strategists say.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/13/politics/13dems.html
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 08:58 AM
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1. Here's to a fair election next year!
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nancy dooling Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 09:07 AM
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2. Interesting information for all Democrats
Thank you for raising the question. There are thousands of Americans who want Jeff Fisher found and helping us again. I am one of them. Many of us have not forgotten how he went to Washington D.C. last December and spoke on C-Span. I remember hearing him on RadioLeft.com a few days later talking to the crowd of protestors directly across from the White House. His speech was passionate, something that most politicians lack. He wasn't there for money or power, he was there for truth and justice.

His picture was in the Press and Sun-Bulletin newspaper, as a protestor during the St. Patrick Four trial in Binghamton, New York last month. I found out that he helped the group regarding legal issues that would help guide the jurors toward a not guilty verdict. I have made contact with people in Florida who knew him outside of Palm Beach County and they were impressed with him. Maybe the people of Florida were not ready for a true Democrat, one who had ideas like the Kennedy's, Paul Wellstone or Dennis Kucinich. The election fraud issue is coming out and Jeff Fisher took the goverment on and won without any help from his family or party members. It's a shame to lose a true patriot. He would be an asset to the party if he could be found and offered a position working for the DNC.

Now I want to know what information did U.S. Senator Bill Nelson not address from Mr. Fisher.
This Sean Lennon and Dr. Piotr Blass knew about the rigging, but again nobody in Washington D.C. listened to the truth.

Nancy Dooling

Nancy Pena-Brink <nepenabrink@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Hi everyone:

I know that everyone has opinions about Jeff Fisher however I have often wondered what happened to him after the last election. He was a tireless worker. We all have opinions and we should be able to express them without repercussions from our government. Where did Jeff Fisher disappear to?

Nancy

Subject: New York Democrat needs help finding Florida Democrat, Jeff Fisher

UPDATE:
Senator Bill Nelson, (D,Fl.) was told this information, (partial) in Stuart Florida, two months before the election. This information was obtained from an eyewitness that the Senator and Jeff Fisher had a private conversation after a political rally in Martin County, Florida.

Congressman Hinchey (NY)(D) takes cue from Congressman Mark Foley (Fl) (R) 2004 Democratic opponent regarding anti war protests. Maybe he will take a stand regarding last November’s election. The following is a recent blog on Clint Curtis and Jeff Fisher.
Informant (xxx named regarding 1999 email) Bay Point Schools
Election Fraud post on Internet.
The truth is coming out. Read the entire blog. What’s so interesting about this blog is that information is coming out one year later after the election. Why the Democratic National Committee didn’t get involved with this is another question progressives are asking? Why did this democrat give up everything for his nation without any help from the party? I have done more research and this man needs to be working for the party in Washington D. C. He helped us in Binghamton, now he is nowhere to be found. His advice helped us win the Federal Court case (St. Patrick Four vs United States).
Dennis Kucinich, Paul Wellstone, Barney Frank are not only liberal but also progressive. Jeff Fisher was all of them plus more. Tell everyone to contact Washington D. C. and get this patriot who is again listed as a “MIA” political whistleblower back into the hands of the American voter. The DNC needs him to find him so we can start winning in 2006 and than 2008.
I was also interested in why did the Florida Congressional Representatives ignore him. Congressman Robert Wexler, Why? Congressman Meeks, Why. I found out that Wexler had pressure from Israel to not support him because Fisher was Anti-War and Pro-Peace in the Middle East. Congressman Meeks worked on Homeland Security.
What kind of Democrats let others risk everything and in return they brush the dust from the truth for a paycheck?
To Howard Dean, you excited the voters and now you have a chance to bring about that excitement again. Find Jeff Fisher and bring his ideas and experiences from the last year to the party and to us. The American Voter, the Progressive Voter, the Liberal Voter, the Democrats who voted for Kennedy.
http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00001344.htm#65
Everyone needs to contact Joe Sandler, DNC Lead Counsel, Howard Dean, DNC Chairman and Congressman John Conyers Jr.
Blog is after contact names, XXX named in Red
Congressman John Conyers, Jr. Democratic National Committee Democratic National Committee
(202) 225-5126 Howard Dean Joseph Sandler-General Counsel
(202) 225-0072 Fax 430 S. Capitol St. SE 50 E Street, SE
(734) 285-5624 Washington, DC 20003 Suite 300
(734) 285-5943 Fax 202-863-8000 Washington, DC 20003
(313) 961-5670 Telephone: (202) 479-1111
(313) 226-2085 Fax Facsimile: (202) 479-

COMMENT #65
...SAHI SADI said on 9/26/2005 @ 2:02pm PT...
This email was sent to me from a friend in Moscow. I research Mr. Fisher last night and found out more. I am going to post the information and when you read the rest you will know that this man was a marked man for
telling the truth. Now he is helping to defend anti-war protesters in Upstate New York.

Sahi

PS Two Common Dreams articles to read

One on Jeff Fisher
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1106-30.htm

One on St Patrick Four
http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0915-34.htm


On July 27, 2004, Jeff Fisher Democratic candidate for congress in Florida’s 16th district was contacted by an individual claiming to be the MIS Director at Bay Point Schools. Jeff Fisher refers to this individual
as XXXXX (here XXX) on his web site Jeff Fisher XXX says he has uncovered a scheme to alter election results by inserting “kernals” of code into optical scan machines and vote tally machines. He says this method was first tested in 1999 and was used in the 2000 and 2002 elections in Florida and is now planned for use throughout the US in 2004. He claimed to have documents and to have given copies of those documents to someone who was killed (Gibbs?). XXX fears for his life and has gone into hiding. Fisher tried to interest various people in XXX’s story without success until the election surprises.

Jeff Fisher also refers to another individual who worked securing Bay Point School's computer systems in 2003, Dr. Piotr Blass, who won't talk about what he knows. Blass was a write in independent candidate for
US Senate in Florida in 2004.

On November 15, 2004 at midnight the blog site dailykos broke the story. DailyKos Fisher The bloggers commenting on this story discover that Bay
Point Schools in fact exists Bay Point Schools and is owned by Mel Sembler, Bush’s ambassador to Italy. A quick search on the Internet reveals that Sembler has a history going back to Ronald Reagan, Oliver North,
Iran Contra, possible foreign election rigging, and funding Clinton scandal research. He is widely regarded as the likely source for the Niger yellow
cake forged documents unmasked by Ambassador Wilson. The chairman of the board of Bay Point Schools is Joseph P. Klock Jr. Attorney for Katherine Harris before the US Supreme Court in 2000. This fascinating
blog story was unlinked by 8AM and was locked down entirely a short time later.

On November 16,2004, Keith Olbermann mentions and dismisses the Fisher story. I didn't make myself clear on November 18. The reason I believe Fisher's story is not that the school's owner and chairman have
Neo-Conservative Neocon ties. The reason I believe this story is that in July, before the election, XXX knew that a multiple state fraud using optical scan voting equipment as the weapon of choice would occur. Everyone I have read prior to the election was obsessing about the DRE (touch-screen) and its lack of voter paper verifiable audit trail. Our fraud
masterminds don't care about the existence of paper ballots because those paper ballots would never be counted. We observers were shocked on election night when the exit polls were wrong. We were shocked again
when the statistical studies by county pointed to the optical scan equipment in state after state. Only XXX predicted this to my knowledge.



Blog found on Cannon Fire

On July 27, 2004 xxxxxx showed me an email dating from 1999 which stated that a successful run of posting felons’ names to electronic voting went without any problem and leaving no audit trail. Mr. xxxxx also showed me information that it was done during the 2002 Florida Gubernatorial Democratic Primary as well. (Visit http://www.jefffisherforcongress.com and click on link labeled “Thank you Michael Moore from Jeff Fisher and Thom Hartmann”). He then told me that due to this success and the improvement of programming that it
would probably be used in the General Election on November 2, 2004. This was relayed to me on July 27, 2004 in the mid afternoon in a parking lot leading from a McDonald’s to the local county library in the
Kendall area of Dade County. He also mentioned to me that he was living in fear. He believed his family might be killed if they found out that he gave this information to anyone. I tried to get this information
to John Kerry on many occasions through Charles Figley. All attempts were fruitless.

Additional information:
Regarding conversation with xxxxxxx

xxxx also told me that day (July 27, 2004) that hardware and software for voting systems such as Sequoia, ES&S and Diebold could be compromised via computer coding (source) that was perfected at Bay
Point School(s) and other locations throughout the United States over the past few years. This was learned by the interception of inter office emails
that were located within the computer network and hard drives. Mr. xxxxxx informed me that he was hired to secure their Internet and Intranet system. During this time of securing the system he became aware of
pertinent information that was not erased from the system regarding the production and development of computerized manipulation procedures to use on a national level for the 2000 general election. He told
me and showed me that the 1999 email verified that a test run was conducted for Florida only, and was a great success due to hiding any visible audit trail verifying the posting of votes from the felons list.
He also told me that the purpose for the casting of votes by felons without leaving an audit trail was the easiest method because they knew that no one would be looking at the list with interest as a possible form
of voter fraud. The perpetrators knew that it was going to disenfranchise thousands of voters throughout the state of Florida. When I asked him how that would be accomplished he said that would be done by computer
source coding that would appear random to the average person yet it was to create under and over voting and create a bias toward a specific candidate. I was unable to attain these documents because, as xxxx
explained, someone had been killed and he felt it could happen to him also… or to his family. Xxxxxx told me that he informed Dr. Piotr Blass of these facts and that they had yet to find someone whom they
could trust with this information. He also said that he would, over time, show me more if I could prove myself to be reliable, loyal and trustworthy to Dr. Blass.

Later on during our conversation xxxxx showed me another email memo dated after the 2002 Florida Democratic Primary (Mid to late September) stating that the felons’ procedure was a success in the election of Bill McBride over Janet Reno and Darryl Jones. xxxxx also told me that he had recently read an email that he could not show me for security reasons
and the threat of possibly being killed. According to xxxxx, this email would reveal new electronic procedures that were being perfected in other
facilities out of state and would possibly be implemented in the General Election this fall. I asked xxxx what it was and how it could be done. He said that it was an intricate network that has been developed since the mid 1990’s and it would take place in several states to divert attention from a
centralized location.

In August, Dr. Blass informed me that he knew that xxxxx had knowledge of how the coding was being distributed throughout the United States due to xxxx being the MIS Director at Baypoint School. He told me that xxxx had revealed this information to him in bits and pieces in the early part of 2004 (Jan-March) via personal contacts at Baypoint. Dr. Blass also told me he was friends with Joe Klock even though he was made aware that Mr. Klock was allegedly having sexual relations with some of the male students.

During the month of October Dr. Blass was asking via email and on radio for financial support to free his son from Growing Together (see Rense article). His efforts were fruitless until approximately ten days
before the General Election. Dr. Blass even had me advertise on my own website that if they contributed to my campaign I would donate 10% to the David Lopez Blass Defense Fund. Dr. Blass had my communications
manager, Al Rogers, living in his home for several days promoting a petition to free his son, which would be given to Governor Jeb Bush. On Monday October 25, 2004, Dr. Blass informed me that he no longer needed Al’s services or mine, for that matter, because he had
Joe Klock assisting him in the release of his son, and that he had received the needed funds. When I asked him from whom he received the funds he first stated to me that it was none of my business. Then, a few
minutes later he told me his brother provided the funds, but to not tell anyone.

In late October, Dr. Blass informed me, while at Key College (Dania Beach, Florida), that he had spoken with xxxx again and that more information had been obtained as to how Bay Point School was getting
additional funding for computer training and equipment in 2001 and 2003. Dr. Blass thought that it was interesting as that Ambassador Sembler was a key factor in funneling funds to Bay Point School via Joseph Klock as well as to Connie Mack and Michael Bilarakis. I asked him how he knew this and he told me that xxxx had told him in April or May of 2004.

Russell Baker (Nation Magazine) has interviewed Mr. xxxx on Nov. 12, 2004 and had Mr. xxxx verbally confirm that there is documentation regarding election fraud.

We have much to go on here. The name of Mr. xxxx will come out soon -- these names always do.

A final point: Fisher links to Kathy Dopp's page. Apparently he, like Randi Rhodes, considers the "Dixiecrat" theory insufficient to explain all of the anomalous cross-party voting. I note that Rhodes and Fisher live in Florida, unlike most of their critics.

# posted by Joseph : 11:41 AM 2 comments



I received this email yesterday. I remember this guy. He was all over the Internet. I don't want the reward. I do want everyone I send this to help find him. This should be posted on blogs.

James


Thanks for the personal note, Janna.

The great blog-o-sphere is indeed one of the avenues of humanitarian __expression. As a member of the Board of Directors for the Chicago Committee to Defend the Bill of Rights, I know quite well the risks taken by those who dare to speak truth to power, who dare to show genuine concern for those oppressed by a governmental system hell-bent on undermining the US Constitution and democracy. We are at greater risk
now than at any other time in US history, including during the Joe McCarthy era! I'm glad for the work your are doing - in the phone conversations I had with Jeff so many months ago, he did mention the work he did to help hurricane victims in Florida. I also told
him he was welcome to look us up in Chicago if he needed to get away ... Hmmm... he must have forgotten the offer or not realized we were serious. Keep me in the loop and thanks again.

MaryBeth Ingberg

janna crieghton wrote:

We believe he went on the run because of what happened to him on December 16th. The evidence points toward a combination of a,c and some kind of personal problem with his family and wife.

We were informed that he testified as a witness in Tiberon, California. That is just north of San Fransisco.



I am on the road in Upstate New York looking for him. One of our members saw his name on a plane manifest flying from San Diego to Syracuse. We think he may be on his way back toward New York City.

There are others that are looking also. I only want this man to be able to live as an American and not as a lost soul. In times of war and oppression I only wanted to send other people's letters to never forget.
I will not send you other people's letters. I am a blog believer because it shows the humanity of what Americans are about.

Did you know that Jeff Fisher was a Hurricane victim last year also? We also learned that he helped many victims putting their lives ahead of his.



Janna

MaryBeth Ingberg wrote:

Janna. I appreciate being "in the loop" regarding Jeff Fisher. Perhaps you could introduce yourself to me via email in addition to simply forwarding emails from others. Is it possible that Jeff simply gave up and dropped out of sight because a) he needed to retreat and get himself together after a very trying time, b) he's just fed up and does not want to be involved, c)
he needs to be in hiding due to the information he has? How do I know who YOU are and why, in fact, are you looking for Jeff Fisher? If I do not receive a responsible reply and introduction from you, Janna,
please do not send further emails. If you do, they'll be sent to the spam file and blocked.
Regards,
MaryBeth.

janna crieghton wrote:

Janna, I have read some of Jeff's articles and believe he was on the right track.

My question is have they found him? I haven't been able to find anything on the net about him.

I pray you have, Yulonda

MaryBeth Ingberg wrote:

Dear Janna.

Thanks for forwarding the info and update on Jeff Fischer. Both my husband and I had several conversations with Jeff leading up to and shortly after the election - and had also become concerned for
his well-being. We believe he had factual information regarding election fraud that may have put him at risk. I tried contacting him via phone & email as late as January - I can't remember - but of course was not
able to reach him and did not receive a reply. He is truly an inspiration and a patriot! He did not disclose personal information, but indicated that he
was going through difficult personal & financial times in addition to the terrible political events suffered (ongoing) by the American People. I welcome any news you may have regarding Jeff's well-being. Though I
don't know what, we'll do what we can from Chicago.



We continue our responsibility as US Citizens working for free & fair elections, public education, environmental safety, protecting the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and of course, getting out of Iraq!
Thanks again, and keep up the good work. My contact info is at the end of this email...



Regards,

MaryBeth Ingberg





Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 23:34:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: janna crieghton
Subject: election fraud reward

Hi,

I met Jeff Fisher last year but since January 2005 we have not see him again.

I did work on his campaign until his lost and he was running again for the 2006 campaign.

Keep me inform.

By,
Jose Escalada
Lake Worth, Florida

rhowell wrote:

Subject: Re: 2004 Election Fraud Reward
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 8:51:06 -0400

I have been so worried about Jeff. In fact, I contacted his friend in Florida and other people and they insinuated that he was half- crazy and a deadbeat. I can't believe a man with his conviction is either of those things. The state of the country is certainly a reason for concern and outrage but I doubt this man would crumble. I think something
bad has happened to him. Another "whistleblower" missing in action.

Date: 2005/08/25 Thu PM 10:22:53 EDT

Subject: 2004 Election Fraud Reward

Lost American Patriot
Reward
$1,000,000
2004 Florida Congressional Candidate
(Missing in Action)
"Jeff Fisher"

This specific political internet group that I'm a member of is called Democracy and Fair Elections, DFE. We're an uncharted internet discussion group that's founded and based upon the voting
irregularities in the November 2004 General Election in Ohio, Florida, North Carolina and Texas.

Our present members stand at 25,000 based upon our June 2005 quarterly closing. We're proud Americans who represent the Green, Libertarian, Liberal Democrats and Independent Parties who believe that John Kerry
and Al Gore won the 2004 and 2000 general election.

Our mission is to continue the investigation that Jeff Fisher testified on December 8th, 2004 to Ted Kalo, Minority General Counsel, Committee on the Judiciary in room B351-C,Rayburn. His number is 202-225-6906. This is related to an email from 1999 linking Bay Point School to the General Election of 2000 and 2004.

Since the CSPAN telecast on 12/8/04 our investigators have come up with evidence of Clint Curtis, Congressman Tom Feeney, Dr. Piotr Blass
and Sean Lennon (the informant,xxx) whom each had taken a part in having Al Gore lose in 2000 and John Kerry in 2004. This information was obtained by electronic (cell phone) conversations in November and
December between Dr. Piotr Blass and Sean Lennon.

Mr. Fisher was hospitalized on December 16 at George Washington University, where he was told that he experienced Todd’s Paralysis. He then dropped out of sight until January where he was spotted on a
subway in NYC. In March he was seen in Los Angeles.In July he was seen in San Francisco at Saint Francis Hospital.

His wife has divorced him and has convinced his family and friends that he has deserted her and their son and daughter. Our sources in NYC have
revealed that he felt betrayed by the Democratic party lack of interest in seeking out the truth.

The second reason we believe why he hasn't been able to be located is that his wife tried to have him institutionalized around Thanksgiving last year.
Our investigators intercepted phone calls from Mrs. Fisher that she wanted to have her husband Baker Acted in Florida due to his patriotic efforts to
save the nation, which she believed was not in her family's best interests. We also have investigated other individuals who were close to Jeff Fisher and verified that she was malicious toward his political beliefs and that she actually used force against his will (attempted running her car into him)
on Thanksgiving Day. She has told many people that the election fraud that has been taking place since 1999shouldn't be addressed and she would do everything possible to discredit her husbands efforts.

We did a thorough investigation of Mr. Fisher and he was a welcome relief of fresh air in the political arena. He revealed his imperfections to everyone, which in our eyes was taking the high road toward being an honest and trustworthy politician.

We know that he teamed up with another person to fight consumer/judicial injustices in California.

His name showed up recently in a court case as a witness. Due to his testimony, the charged party was found innocent. It is time to ask everyone who supported him last year when he stood up and
defended our rights and ask for his survival as an American Patriot.

We must not Forget

We must Protect our Elections

We must find & bring Jeff Fisher to America's Rescue

Tell every proud American that
this patriot must never be forgotten.

A proud American from S.F.,

Janna Crieghton


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Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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