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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 10:49 AM
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Hannity: "We have 70 percent of Al Qaeda captured and on the run"
http://mediamatters.org/items/200510120010

Echoing misleading administration claim, Hannity said "we have 70 percent of Al Qaeda captured"

On the October 11 edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes, host Sean Hannity replayed a video clip from his September 30 debate with Democratic political strategist James Carville, in which Hannity repeated the misleading claim that the Bush administration " 70 percent of Al Qaeda capture and on the run." While Hannity made the claim to support his contention about the current progress of the administration's anti-terrorism campaign, the assertion appears to be based on a CIA estimate of the roughly 25 Al Qaeda leaders known as of September 11, 2001. As Media Matters for America has previously noted, however, Al Qaeda's next generation of terrorist leaders have gradually replaced the older set, limiting the figure's relevance as a current measure of U.S. success against the terrorist group.

Hannity's claim echoed a similar administration claim that "75 percent" of Al Qaeda leaders have been killed or captured; for instance, President Bush said that "three-quarters of Al Qaeda leaders have been brought to justice" during the third 2004 presidential debate. In fact, then-National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice admitted to CNN on October 3, 2004, that the administration did not know how many leaders its 75 percent claim represented -- she placed it in the range of "tens to 100." At the time, CNN political analyst William Schneider noted that recent estimates said that Al Qaeda "may have as many as 18,000 potential operatives."

From the October 11 edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes, airing a part of the September 30 "Meeting of the Mouths 3" debate, which Fox News host Neil Cavuto moderated:

CAVUTO: Guys, guys, you know what?

CARVILLE: One more point here.

CAVUTO: Looking back is not going to do anyone any good.

HANNITY: First of all, in three years, Uday and Qusay are dead-ay. Saddam is about to be tried, convicted, and hung the way he deserves. We have 70 percent of Al Qaeda captured and on the run. We are winning the war on terror. It is a difficult job.

— R.S.K.

Posted to the web on Wednesday October 12, 2005 at 7:02 PM EST
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jedicord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 10:53 AM
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1. So are they captured or on the run?
Can't be both.

:eyes:
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 10:54 AM
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2. Maybe they're running around in their cells (EOM)
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jedicord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:04 AM
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12. Or maybe they're captured and HAVE the runs. n/t
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:10 AM
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15. or maybe they were captured BECAUSE they had the runs.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:16 AM
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19. Maybe the bird flu gave them runny noses.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 02:23 PM
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26. maybe raw chicken gave them runny asses
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 10:54 AM
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3. Maybe he could share the AQ membership list with the rest of us...
... since he seems so intimately acquainted with the organization.

:crazy:
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 10:54 AM
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4. "We", Sean?
What is this "we" formulation? And what, specifically, have you done to help out for this "difficult job"?
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 02:36 PM
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27. As you know, most of the Repubs are doing their share of this
"difficult job" from here at home...as usual. They are emulating
our great and fearless "Bring it on" leader. Why change now?

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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 10:55 AM
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5. we have 70% of the republicans captured or on the run ...
we are winning the war on terror too ...
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 10:55 AM
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6. This is absurd
as usual they fail to do the math..
each muslim killed has an average of thirty relatives/ ten percent of these will be turned into terrorist if we kill the original terrorist. If we have killed 70% we now have 3x70% or 210% or 110% more terrorists.

Hi Beef
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 10:57 AM
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7. If they're not in custody or dead, they ARE on the run.
Edited on Thu Oct-13-05 10:57 AM by rocknation
So while the 70 per cent number may be wrong, Sean is technically right. But who's his source? Probably the same "experts" who came up with:



:headbang:
rocknation
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pauldp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 10:59 AM
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8. That must be why things are so peaceful in Iraq.
Guess we can leave Iraq then and let Iraqi security take care of the rest.
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:00 AM
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9. We probably have ...
Edited on Thu Oct-13-05 11:00 AM by Drifter
captured or killed a number that represents 70% of pre-911 Al-Qaeda numbers.

What they don't tell you is that post-911 Al-Qaeda numbers have increased 10000%. That of course makes the 70% number negligible.

Either way, they are recruiting at a pace much faster than we are gettin 'em.

Cheers
Drifter
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Sallow Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:01 AM
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10. Hannity and his followers are sort of delusional.
I post at Hannity.com and let me tell you..alot of them are delusional. So much so, they are scary. When Hannity says something like this..it's sort of like saying more people are employed today then anytime in history which would be true because the population is larger. I have seen way nutty posts like - Socialism and Fascism are the same, ID and Evolution are both unproven scientific theories that should be taught along side each other, and my fave - Nuke Hurricane Rita.
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:01 AM
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11. Talibans on the run ! Talibaaans on the run !
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:06 AM
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13. LOL having stopped listening to his radio show and TV show
Edited on Thu Oct-13-05 11:23 AM by underpants
A little Hannity out of the blue is hilarious. It is amazing that listening to them actually makes you feel that people like him have any credibility or should be taken seriously.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:07 AM
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14. so where's bin Laden
I figure that he would be the one that we would want the most

right???

:shrug:
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:10 AM
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16. "and there's a 5% chance of that"
n/t
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:12 AM
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17. the remaining 30% being in Wash CD
reportedly to be wearing 3 piece blue striped suits and asnwering to the name of.....
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thecodewarrior Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:16 AM
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18. No its
We have 70% of the blood thirsty Xtian warmongers discredited and on the run..

Hannity is a traitor that supports warmongering and genocide, fuck him, he's a POS.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:16 AM
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20. The fuehrer will emerge from the bunker more popular than ever
and lead the reich to glorious victory...never mind that shot you just heard....
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hadrons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:22 AM
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21. so we're winning because Cavuto and Hannity say so???
Edited on Thu Oct-13-05 11:22 AM by hadrons
ok :eyes:
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:39 AM
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22. Al Qaeda members punch a clock every day.
That's how we know 70% of them have been captured...or laid off...
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:42 AM
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23. What a relief. I can sleep tonight.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:49 AM
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24. Obviously Sean has some inside information...?
Otherwise, how would he know such a statistic? Maybe the WHIG is leaking information to him? Or is he another one of those "reporters", like Armstrong Williams, who is on the White House payroll?
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:09 PM
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25. 83.7% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
(Not this one, of course...)

I love the way these idiots tacitly claim to know everything about this organization and about the insurgency, yet they can't really do anything material to stop them other than continually killing and capturing the number two people.

To make such a statement is to say one knows how big the organization is, and even if it were a formal and structured organization with a specific number of people, instead of the loose confederation of the hardcore that's supplemented here and there by associates, claiming to know the number is just pure crap.
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