results of the indictments will determine DU's like/dislike of Fitzgerald

[Ignacio Upton]

For the last few months, almost every liberal website and the blogosphere have been praising Patrick Fitzgerald (or "Fitz" as he is affectionately called on this site.) However, the results of the indictments will determine whether or not this affection sticks:
....It is all relative to how Fitzgerald acts. The reaction towards him will be VERY different depending on the results of the probe.

If there are no indictments, Fitzgerald will be attacked on this site and called a partisan shill, and that he is a Bush crony. Charges of being bribed or coerced by Rove, Libby and Cheney will flourish, and people will be demanding an inquiry into Fitzgerald's conduct of the lea

If there are major indictments, then Fitzgerald will be seen as a hero in DU and blog circles. People on DU and Kos and TPMCafe will be trying to draft him for a run against the disliked Rod Blogoyevich in 2006 for Illinois Governor (even if he is a Republican.) Fitzgerald avatars will spring up and be worn by as many posters as Conyers or Boxer or Gore or Dean.

[tuvor]

1. Betcha we see the reverse at neocon sites, too.

Not sure what your point is.

[Ignacio Upton]

3. I'm just saying this to remind people

I have seen similar changes in opinion towards many Senators. For example, Byrd was praised for voting against the War then ridiculed for voteing for the Bankrupcy Bill and John Roberts. Likewise Feingold was ridiculed for voting for Rice and Roberts for SCOTUS.

[tuvor]

5. Well, if there are no indictments...

(which I can't imagine happening, given his reputation and the length of the investigation), it might be worth looking into such conjecture.

I've been smelling way too much smoke to ever believe there's no fire.

[JDPriestly]

8. Wait a minute!

Fitzgerald will bring indictments if he has the evidence to go to trial. I will be satisfied with either a public report explaining why there are no indictments in detail, which is what the top Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee are requesting, or indictments. It's his call, and he will have to consider the political risk of bringing indictments that aren't solid. I'm hoping for indictments, but it's Fitzgerald's call. We don't have the evidence he has. Let's remember that.

We have assumed that the press got this information from the White House, but Fitzgerald may find evidence that the press got the information from some other source that needs to be traced down.

This is about justice, not a political vendetta.

[tuvor]

14. You needn't "remind" me of anything.

Tell me, though, that despite the myriad circumstances--rove's four visits without guarantee of not being indicted, Miller's jailtime, scotty and bush not wanting to talk about an ongoing investigation now even though they did before, novak's saying the information was given to him, Stephanapolous's source telling him that bush and cheney are directly involved, etc....

Tell me that despite all that and more, we couldn't knock you over with a feather if Fitzgerald says there's nothing to indict.

Well, if that happens, you could certainly do that to me.

[JDPriestly]

15. I just don't want to see people fall into deep depression

if things don't work out as expected. Remember the 2004 election. I know people who could barely get out of bed for days after that.

[tuvor]

18. Believe me, I'm bracing myself in case this is deja vu.

Cheers!

[movonne]

2. Well we all know that these people are guilty..so yes I think that

if he doesn't indite as least one it will look very corrupt to me...

[lcordero2]

4. look

This indictment/no indictment thing is nothing but BULLSHIT!!!
The people who are members of this website should be smart enough to see right through it.
The cycle going on is:

do criminal act---> get "indicted" ---->get presidential pardon when the party gets back into power ---> repeat corruption

[Bryan]

6. I agree

The list of people Fitzgerald thinks he can convict may not be as long as the list of people we at DU want to see go down, and it's worthwhile to remember that.

[Writer]

7. Yyyup.

That's how it blows in 'Net land, where people believe themselves to be "informed."

[Birthmark]

9. It won't decide my attitude.

If there are no indictments, then I look forward to reading the report as to why that might be the case. Perhaps there will be sound legal reasons. If so, why should I change my attitude toward Fitzgerald? He appears to be competent, thorough, and fair.

[seemslikeadream]

10. and a Merry Fitzmas to you Ignacio Upton

There will be indictments and un-indicted co conspirators, haven't you been paying attention? Your worry about what I or anyone else will feel about Patrick Fitzgerald is unwarranted. Run against Blogoyevich, what are you smokin'?
















It's beginning to look a lot like Fitzmas
Everywhere you go.
Who's gonna do five-or-ten?
We're thinking once again
Of handcuffs and of orange jumpsuits aglow.
It's beginning to look a lot like Fitzmas
Indictments on every score
But the prettiest sight to see
Is the scowl on Darth Cheney
At the slammer's front door.

A warrant or writ, a subpoena that fits
Is the wish of Barney and Ben;
The thought of Turdblossom hung up like a possum
Is the hope of Janice and Jen;
And Mom and Dad can hardly wait for court to start again.

It's beginning to look a lot like Fitzmas
Everywhere you go.
There's an defendant who doesn't want to tell;
One in the White House as well --
The felony kind that doesn't mind the law!
It's beginning to look a lot like Fitzmas
Soon the bells will start
And the thing that will make them ring
Is the indictment that we sing,
Right within our hearts!

crispini

[laugle]

13. Thanks for the very entertaining post. Very cute!!

[JDPriestly]

16. Wonderful! Amazing! Love it!

[snippy]

11. Your comments will be true of some people and false of others.

Are you Nostradamus reincarnated?

I will make a prediction about the results of Fitzgerald's investigation: After the investigation is concluded Bush's criminal defense attorney will be pleased or he may not be pleased. I am fairly confident that I am right.

[laugle]

12. You must think we are stupid and have no objectivity.

First, I think there will be indictments.

Second, if there are no indictments, it sure as hell won't be because Fitzgerald didn't try to find the truth. I don't think he spent 2 years on this to exonerate these criminals.

Time will tell I guess...........next week I hope...

[mourningdove92]

17. Do or Do not. There is no try.

Yoda