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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 12:05 AM
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Andrea Mitchell on Hardball, helping Tweety lie about Valerie Plame
Matthews, Mitchell, and O'Beirne combined for Plame misinformation triple-team



http://mediamatters.org/items/200510140009

On the October 13 edition of MSNBC's Hardball with Chris Matthews, NBC News chief foreign affairs correspondent Andrea Mitchell, National Review Washington editor Kate O'Beirne, and host Chris Matthews presented false and misleading statements concerning the investigation into the alleged outing of former CIA agent Valerie Plame. Mitchell wrongly asserted that Plame's husband, former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV, claimed that Vice President Dick Cheney "dispatched" him to Niger in 2002 to investigate the alleged sale of yellowcake uranium to Iraq. Matthews stated as fact the disputed claim that Plame "suggested her husband for the mission" to Niger. And O'Beirne confused two statutes that may have been violated when Plame's identity was leaked to the press -- the 1917 Espionage Act and the 1982 Intelligence Identities Protection Act -- and wrongly attacked Wilson's credibility by claiming he was "o expert in weapons of mass destruction."

Mitchell, claiming she wanted to "clear something up," stated that "here had been inaccurate reporting -- some of it came from Wilson's mouth himself -- that he was dispatched by the vice president." Wilson, however, never claimed that Cheney or Cheney's office sent him to Niger. As Media Matters for America has noted, Wilson -- in his July 6, 2003, New York Times op-ed and in numerous televised appearances -- claimed he was sent to Niger by the CIA to answer questions from Cheney's office regarding the purported sale of uranium to Iraq. The false claim that Wilson stated or implied that Cheney sent him to Niger (literally a Republican National Committee talking point) is significant to the controversy surrounding the White House's alleged outing of Plame. In an attempt to justify the purported leaking of Plame's identity to the press, the White House claimed that it had a legitimate interest in setting the record straight by disclosing that Plame, not Cheney, was actually responsible for Wilson's being sent to Niger.

Responding to Mitchell's remarks, Matthews commented that "f course Valerie Plame suggested her husband for the mission." But what Matthews presented as fact is a matter very much in dispute. Unnamed intelligence officials have been quoted in the press claiming that the CIA -- not Plame -- selected Wilson for the mission. Also, CIA officials disputed the accuracy of a State Department intelligence memo that reportedly indicates that Plame "suggested" Wilson's name for the trip. Moreover, the Senate Intelligence Committee did not officially conclude that Plame suggested the trip in its 2004 "Report on the U.S. Intelligence Community's Prewar Intelligence Assessments on Iraq."

O'Beirne, in an attempt to dismiss the possibility that leaking Plame's identity violated the law, apparently confused the Espionage Act and the Intelligence Identities Protection Act (IIPA) -- two statutes under which special prosecutor Patrick J. Fitzgerald is reportedly considering seeking indictments. Responding to Matthews's comment that White House officials "could have still broken the law to whack" Wilson, O'Beirne said: "Yes, that underlying Espionage Act is pretty darn hard to break. They could've been unaware ... of what her status was at the CIA." The Espionage Act does not, however, specifically address the identities of covert agents, but instead deals generally with the unlawful distribution of classified information to individuals not authorized to receive it. O'Beirne's comments echo the language of the IIPA, which states that revealing the identity of an undercover agent is illegal only if the leaker was aware of the agent's covert status. Conservatives have questioned whether any law was broken in Plame's outing by claiming that the IIPA sets very high hurdles for prosecution, while apparently ignoring the other laws that may have been violated in the Plame leak. According to the IIPA: Whoever, having or having had authorized access to classified information that identifies a covert agent, intentionally discloses any information identifying such covert agent to any individual not authorized to receive classified information, knowing that the information disclosed so identifies such covert agent and that the United States is taking affirmative measures to conceal such covert agent's intelligence relationship to the United States, shall be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 12:14 AM
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1. I hate to say this but
Edited on Sat Oct-15-05 12:16 AM by ...of J.Temperance
The Fat Pig Rove bastard is going to get away with this. If there was a chance that he was going to get indicted, then these mediawhores would be singing a different tune than they are.

There's a reason why Rove looked so happy and smiling the other day, he knows he's going to walk. There's a reason why Fitzgerald looked so downbeat and unhappy the other day, he knows that Rove is going to walk too.

I want Rove in jail, he's a COMPLETE menace to society. But there's a reason why I've not been getting over excited about the Fitzgerald investigation, and that's that I've been disappointed TOO many times over these thugs and what they've done, but I'm not disappointed this time, because unlike other times, from the onset of the Fitzgerald investigation I never ONCE got my hopes up that Rove would get scalped.

I'm just telling it as I see it, as I feel it in my gut. So I hope I don't get beaten up over making these comments.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 12:22 AM
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2. I will not beat you up, but I think you are wrong
And hey, I could be wrong too.

But I think this thing is gonna get very ugly, very soon. And Karl may be the whipping boy.

Of course, he will be pardoned, it will simply be a bad distraction. But I think he is in hot water....
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 12:31 AM
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3. Well I HOPE that YOU'RE right and that I'M wrong
It would be like Christmas coming early having the Fat Assed Pig Rove getting canned. He's the lynchpin in all this evil and wickedness that's been going on since August 2000 - I'm including Too Stupid To Be *resident's campaign against President Gore here as well.

I'm just scared to get my hopes up over this sort of stuff anymore, this includes the Delay thing...because they've done SO many criminal and wicked things and they've gotten away with ALL of them...I'm just afraid of getting disappointed AGAIN.

Thanks for not beating me up ;)
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 12:35 AM
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4. All we can do is cross our fingers
and hang together! I understand your reluctance to hope, it is only natural in this day and age. But I do think the worm has turned, and the press has grown a bit of a spine....
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 12:41 AM
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5. The video looks like Fitz
may have the media surrounded. My two cents.
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samdogmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 02:08 AM
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7. Oh, my! I'm bookmarking so I can come back with a big fat I TOLD YOU SO!
Edited on Sat Oct-15-05 02:11 AM by samdogmom
Please, please, please let me do this!

(On Edit: Rove's going to be indicted!)
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 07:10 AM
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10. something tells me, too, that the PIG wil beat the rap
but Scooter's going down. Just a feeling, but my intuition has always been fairly accurate.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 07:32 AM
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12. I agree with you on the not to excited part....
To many shadowy he said she said allegations to make a clear distinction....

I thought that since Novak wasn't the targeted media figure, the case was weak at best and flimsy indeed...

But one good thing, the allegations are out there now....

Much like the travel-gate allegation and the trashing of the White House by Clinton and Gore helped cement in the countries mind that Clinton Gore were childish, these mounting allegations and, I do believe someday soon, convictions in other areas, Delay of Frist, will show just how corrupted the GOP has become since they attained full control of the government...

People are starting to take notice off all the crap these guys pull day after day after day....
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 09:44 AM
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15. I am as gunshy as you are but the steady drip drip drip has increased
More people are beginning to look upon these guys in a different light. They still are Mob Kings though and control all the levers so I won't hold my breath. I still have a faint hope that Americans will somehow come to their senses and allow true justice to be done.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 12:45 AM
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6. Joe Wilson's remarks on the record.
He clearly said Cheney inquired of the CIA and they mulled it over and asked Ms. Plame if her husband was available. It is true she suggested him for a PRIOR "thing" a couple years earlier, but they came to her on this one. She responded in an email, and that email is where the 9/11 Commission picked up the trail in their inquiry, never bothering to get the back story.

It's all irrelevant, pointless minutia that doesn't mean squat. It doesn't change the nature of the outing. It doesn't matter WHY the Vulgar Pigboy did it. He is on record telling several newsfolk that Ms. Plame was "fair game." That phrase is the money shot. It depicts clearly his intention.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 03:24 AM
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8. Matthews and Mitchell are both...
in this up to their eyeballs. They've actively supported Bush's war based on what they knew to be lies. Their primary motive is to cover their own involvement.

Nobody's getting away with anything. I don't think Fitzgerald watches "Hardball", and wouldn't be getting his "facts" there, anyway.
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 01:24 PM
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17. There's nothing appealing about the LIARS in the USA mass media ...
Info-tainment is right. Either they are distorting and spinning for the Neo-Conservative Corporate masters, or they are dumbing us down with the latest WHITE WOMAN missing and/or murdered HYPE! HYPE! HYPE! These a**hole commentators are despicable, including those clowns in CNN's illustrious "Shit-Stain Room." Evil, bloated, investor class shills - ONE and ALL. Even Christiane Amapour is making me want to puke lately.

Our media has been bought and sold to the likes of corporate war profiteers. Buck up folks, it's gonna be a long cruel winter. :(
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Bluesplayer Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 04:25 AM
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9. Question
Did Plame testify for the grand jury re who suggested her husband?
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 08:38 AM
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13. How is it even relevant - either Plame/Brewster Jennings was outed or not
"plame recommended" is just GOP smoke and distraction -
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Bluesplayer Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 12:41 AM
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18. I know that
But don't you think Fitzgerald would at least depose the CIA officials that requested the investigation? And to verify that what Rove and Libby testified to was accurate or not? If either of them told a reporter that Plame recommended Wilson, wouldn't that mean they talked to someone at CIA? Don't you think Fitz is interested in where Rove learned about Plame?

Every question is relevant, even if every answer is not.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 07:23 AM
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11. and weren't both of these 'reporters' subpoenaed by Fitz--yet they
continue to lie.
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 09:41 AM
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14. I ABSOLUTELY remember hearing Wilson say (I think on AAR)
that the republican talking point about his wife recommending him for the trip was a total fabrication. He even went on to point out that his wife was not happy about his being chosen for this trip because at that time their children (twins, I believe) were very young, and she would have rather that he stayed home at that time to assist her with these responsibilities. I'm certain that Fitzgerald is fully aware of the genesis of Wilson's Niger trip, as he has spoken to all parties involved including Wilson. The talking heads can spin the story all they want, but Fitzgerald is only interested in the facts.
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AndreaCG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 01:19 PM
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16. Where the hell is the left winger here?
Does the Screamer really think he can pass himself or Mitchell as moderate?

I won't watch these shitheads. Keith Olbermann only and occasionally the Daily Show when I am up late enough.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 04:02 AM
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19. Andrea Mitchell is whacked out....
I mean.. just look at who she sleeps with every night!

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