Re: Gore 08 - "He wants to be begged to run."

[StellaBlue]

US News & World Report: Don't Count Al Gore Out

Thursday, 13 October 2005
From U.S. News & World Report
by Paul Bedard

Al Gore's declaration this week in Stockholm that he doesn't plan to run for president has done nothing to dampen moves by friends and allies to talk him into a 2008 race. In fact, they tell Whispers, it's hardened their belief that he wants to run. But, they said, his comments suggest that he isn't interested in a traditional bid for the presidency: He wants to be begged to run. "I'm not discouraged at all by what he said," said one of the Gore advocates Whispers talked with. This week, Gore was in Stockholm blasting the Bush administration and talking about his political plans. He said: "I have absolutely no plans and not (sic) expectations of ever being a candidate again." Allies said that left the door wide open to being wooed. "He doesn't want to be embarrassed and he won't just slowly tip-toe into the race. He wants the whole thing set up for him and that will be easy to do," said our tipster. How? Those advocating a Gore candidacy believe that he already has the issues and a top leadership team in place. But they feel he needs to be convinced that there are enough donors not likely to back Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton that would move to his side to make his bid unbeatable. That, said the advocates, is their first job and they predicted that there are scores of high-tech, media and corporate donors willing to step forward to help Gore.

http://www.algore-08.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=306&Itemid=78

Sorry if this was previously posted here.

[GreenPartyVoter]

1. The thread title makes him sound kinda egotistical, though

[nashville_brook]

6. he's been thru hell -- he's not going to run unless he has support.

-- and it has to come from the grassroots. i can't blame him.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

29. He's not going to run unless Katerine Harris & Karl Rover are behind bars

...or otherwise "not involved" in the election.

What Gore needs...what ANY 2008 Democratic candidate needs, Gore or NOT...is someone willing to DEFEAT KARL ROVE.

Bill Clinton said it best on The Daily Show, on the day of his book's release. Jon Stewart asked him about Rove's particular brand of dirty politics and Clinton replied "They do it because it works, and because they have gotten away with it. As soon as it no longer works or they no longer get away with it they will stop doing it and do something else."

We need a candidate...AND A SUPPORT SYSTEM...that is WILLING to defeat THIS amoral bastard:



I think that if Gore felt that there was a consensus in the party to take this prick DOWN, he might start humming a different tune.

Just my 2 cents worth.

:patriot:

[drummo]

30. You know what was Rove' strategy against Gore?

Linking him to Clinton.

Relinking Gore to Clinton
From the Weekly Standard
08/18/2000
By Fred Barnes

...

And so in the 2000 election, voters want a new president who's the opposite of him personally—and especially morally—but not a strong critic of his policies.

Until a month ago, that person was George W. Bush. His compassionate conservatism isn't a radical departure from this administration's policies, but he's quite unlike Clinton personally. Now, Al Gore has changed things by pulling off a strategically brilliant political transformation. Gore re-mains vice president in name only. He's disconnected himself from Clinton and shaped his image to meet the requirements of the Clinton bifurcation.

...

So, eight weeks out, the presidential race comes down to a single question: Will Gore's separation from Clinton endure? Bush and his advisers recognize how difficult Gore will be to defeat if he's no longer seen as an extension of Clinton, indeed as the vehicle for a third Clinton term in the White House. Their goal is, in Rove's words, to "re-link Gore to Clinton."

...

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39bcfc1964c8.htm

Don't you think Gore did everything possible to counter that strategy?

And what did he get for it from Clinton maniacs?
This:http://www.perkel.com/politics/gore/index.htm

[Crowdance]

7. "Egotistical" is a prerequisite for "politician"

I can't imagine that anyone could survive political processes without a huge, very solid ego. One would have to believe very strongly they are good and right in order to convince others, I imagine. In my experience, Republicans do believe very strongly that they are good and right; problem is, they're missing half their souls...

I'm OK with an egotistical politican, so long as he/she is fighting for the right ideas and issues.

[drummo]

32. And do you think Gore would have accepted to be

vice president with a huge, very solid ego?

[Kahuna]

10. More egotistical than Ralph Nader? I don't think so.

:eyes:

[GreenPartyVoter]

21. The thread title doesn't make Ralph sound egotistical but it

does make Gore out that way.

[drummo]

33. Agree. The title is misleading.

[Totally Committed]

23. In some really important ways, I see Biden

as more egotistical than even Nader.

At least Nader, at one time, had the Green Party's nomination. He legitimately (whether it was right or wrong, it was legitimate) for a group of people who nominated him to do just that.

Biden opines and bloviates and pontificates as if he has been annointed by this Party as its sole voice at times, and it makes him and us look ridiculous, imo.

But, that way off topic. Sorry.

[Mass]

2. Good way to change the subject from Gore criticizing Bush to

a different subject.
This is exactly what they are trying to accomplish. Too bad some will fall for it.

It is too early to speak about 08. Let's focus on the task at end.

[nashville_brook]

9. not sure about the changing of the subject -- but yes, much to do NOW!

i still love AL, tho.

[KittyWampus]

19. Big Push For Gore 08 Came With Newsmax & NYPost Articles About His Running

hmmmmmmmm

[Adelante]

22. You read my mind

Why are these right wing publications pushing Gore? Something's up with this. I saw this US News poll posted in another thread where the choices were Gore, Kerry, Dean and Hillary -- huh? Nobody else. Not even undecided or other. What does it mean?

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politics/whispers/whisphome.htm

Blatant manpipulation, no?

[Mass]

28. Of course it is. They are trying to divide the Democrats by starting

the primary wars too early. We need to stay united to fight against the Republicans NOW.

Nobody knows who will run in 08. We certainly have some idea (and it is obvious that the list is not limited to these four) and some of us may have some preferences, but the ploy from the right wing to launch rumors early to change the focus is blatant.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

3. Okay, I'm begging.

[nashville_brook]

8. that penguin animation is hilarious! shows their conservative values!

[TallahasseeGrannie]

11. Blindsided by the RIGHT WING

we fall into the hole in the ice, but we rise again!

[nashville_brook]

15. that's how they treat their own

:)

i prefer to think of liberals as Bonobos and Tarsiers. we take care of others' young and band together to pool our talent. we use our big primate brains to fashion tools and wash our potatoes. me likee monkee. :)

[pennylane100]

4. I certainly would not be opposed to begging

If that is what it will take.

Please, please, please, we need you.

[Kahuna]

12. Put me down for begging.

Love Al :loveya:

[nashville_brook]

5. i'll BEG! no problem -- PLEASE AL! run! we NEED you!

otherwise we are going to nominate Hillary and she CAN'T win.

now, a Gore/Clinton ticket -- i could go for that. Gore/Edwards, Gore/Clark. Gore/Conyers.

Kerry should stick to windsurfing. he abandoned us.

[Mass]

16. Thanks for the useless Kerry-bashing and for following the RW agenda

The important thing in this article is that GORE IS FIGHTING BUSH (as is Kerry), not whether he is will run in 08 or not.

Gore is a good man that I respect a lot. He should run if he feels like it.

[napi21]

13. I don't want him to run again. I'm sure there are some Dems

who would like him to run again, but I don't. Gore is much different as a speaker than he is as a candidate! I have no reason to believe he wouldn't go back to the tan clothes, mild mannered, too nice guy he was in 2000.

[patricia92243]

24. Exactly. I think he would be a great President, but am not sure he could

win because he is not a good candidate. A truly good man but not a good candidate.

[drummo]

34. The fact that you don't even notice the contradiction between

those two statements tells a lot about how low we've sunk in a few decades in our dominated by superficial TV-dominates politics.

In a rational world only someone who would be a good president should be considered as a good presidential candidate.
And someone who would be a good president should be considered as a
good presidential candidate.

The campaigns should not be about the campaigns themselves.
They should not be about the candidacy.
They should be about the presidency.

[drummo]

35. 2000 was not 2008. Tell me what was in 2000 which excited anyone?

What made people angry?

There was nothing and Gore was bored. (No typo, he was bored. Sometimes I got a sense that he would asleep on his own interviews. Watch this:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/election2000/candidates/gore_index.html

The guy was not invented for standing waters. He is a problem solver.
Someone who likes great challenges not when there is no big problem
anywhere, like there was nothing in 2000.

Also Gore is not a defender. He is an attacker.
In 2000 he had to defend himself, Clinton, the administration what not.
In 2008 he could attack the Reps for screwing everything up.

[PresidentObama]

14. I won't beg Al Gore to run

But in all honesty, he should run. The more, the better.

Oh, and Kerry abandoned us? News to me. You just keep sipping more of that magic Kool-Aid.

[Mass]

17. The sad thing is that the right is igniting this pre-primary war and

they cant even recognize that.

What is important in this article is that Gore is fighting Bush, not what he will do in 2 years.

[wurzel]

18. Gore is being "Gored"again!

Those are not his words. That is the mischievious way the reporter chose to characterize Gore. Haven't we seen all this before???

[OneBlueSky]

20. maybe it's not that he wants to be begged . . .

maybe Al just needs to be encouraged to run . . . by a LOT of people . . .

if Al's as smart as I think he is, he knows that the majority of the American people don't have a clue . . . about anything . . . and that unless this changes, anyone taking on the presidency after Bush would need his or her head examined . . . because without the support of an informed citizenry, trying to clean up BushCo's mess will be an impossible (and thankless) proposition . . .

should the people actually awaken, however . . . to the point that they recognize the damage BushCo has done/is doing, and demand something different . . . something progressive (as in "looking forward with optimism and resolve") . . . THEN, and ONLY then, might it make sense to actually seek the office . . .

so maybe Al's looking for us -- LOTS of us -- to say to him "Yeah, we get it . . . it's one huge mess . . . and we want/need you to lead the effort to fix it" . . . because he knows that unless that actually happens, he has NO chance in hell of succeeding even if he is elected . . .

just another half-baked theory . . . make of it what you will . . .

[Rowdyboy]

25. I can see no reason for Gore to announce now that he won't run if he

wants people to draft him. Why say anything at all? I don't see what he has to gain by playing coy and that really isn't Gore's style in my opinion.

Sounds like wishful thinking to me.

[otohara]

26. On My Knees

begging. Run Al run!

[MrsMatt]

27. typical, coming from US News & World Distort n/t

[cwydro]

31. What irritates me about Gore

is that he SHOULD have run on Clinton's record...but because of the sex scandal...he deserted him. I lost all respect for him there...I don't think I could vote for him ever again...and I did (in the Supreme Court decided election.) Like we say in the South...you gotta dance with the one that brung ya...

[pstans]

36. I have had the feeling that it would be the right time for Gore in 08

Ever since the beginning of the year when I heard Gore speak about environment, I have had the feeling that it would be the right time for Gore in 08. People will be looking for the economy to return to what it was in the 1990's and people will hear his strong support for the environment. 3 more years of Bu$h can be really harmful to the environment and the economy and Gore is a proven leader that can help this country will reclaim its promise, and out of this long political darkness a brighter day will come.