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CanonRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 12:06 PM
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Did Anyone Else Catch What Condi Admitted?
It sounded to me like she admitted that we didn't go into Iraq for with WMD or becuase of terrorism, but to create a major change in the Mideast. If I'm not mistaken, this has never before been admitted by the administration as a reason for entering the war, and of course was never discussed prior to the war. An, of course, Tim totally missed it.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 12:11 PM
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1. It's the current rationale.
Bush has been squawking it for a couple of weeks now. It's something like number 5 on the list, I think. Let's see:

1.WMD (oops...)
2.al Qaeda-9/11 linked to Saddam (um, sorry...)
3.Saddam an evil dictator (but not as evil as others, whose countries we didn't invade)
4.God told Dubya to bring liberty to the Iraqi people (was that before or after torturing them?)
5.Invading Iraq will create stability in the broader Middle East (the laugh riot continues...)
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 12:13 PM
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2. Bush administration has used 27 rationales for war in Iraq, study says
Edited on Sun Oct-16-05 12:15 PM by tuvor
Bush administration has used 27 rationales for war in Iraq, study says

http://www.news.uiuc.edu/news/04/0510war.html

http://www.pol.uiuc.edu/news/largio.htm
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 01:17 PM
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7. 27 rationales and one obvious reason: they invaded because they wanted to
and the Congress, MSM, and vast numbers of we the people jumped through their collective assholes to support and shill for neocon itch.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 02:53 PM
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21. Because they could. n/t
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 10:52 PM
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9. Vindictive W kills thousands of American soldiers to get Hussein for daddy
Hussein tried to kill Shrub's daddy.

Thousands of American soldiers are dying because of W's drive to capture Hussein, and in the aftermath.
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 02:35 AM
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11. oh for only if...
it was that simple.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 04:37 AM
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13. Right. It is not that simple.
Right. It is not that simple. But vindication of his father is the biggest not-often-stated reason for W's focus on Iraq that was most obvious when he yanked Richard Clarke into a room on Sept. 11, 2001:

"The president dragged me into a room with a couple of other people, shut the door, and said, 'I want you to find whether Iraq did this.' Now he never said, 'Make it up.' But the entire conversation left me in absolutely no doubt that George Bush wanted me to come back with a report that said Iraq did this.

"I said, 'Mr. President. We've done this before. We have been looking at this. We looked at it with an open mind. There's no connection.' "He came back at me and said, "Iraq! Saddam! Find out if there's a connection.' And in a very intimidating way. I mean that we should come back with that answer. We wrote a report."

Clarke continued, "It was a serious look. We got together all the FBI experts, all the CIA experts. We wrote the report. We sent the report out to CIA and found FBI and said, 'Will you sign this report?' They all cleared the report. And we sent it up to the president and it got bounced by the National Security Advisor or Deputy. It got bounced and sent back saying, 'Wrong answer. ... Do it again.'

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/19/60minutes/main607356.shtml
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 11:00 AM
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16. Even worse than that...
He was proving that he could get Saddam when Daddy couldn't. Those two are still engaged in a fist fight that started when Georgie was still a pup.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 01:53 AM
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10. 27 reasons for going to Iraq by this evil regime...wow, I knew it
was alot of excuses but not that many.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 12:54 PM
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3. Hahaaa!
Regardless, the only reason that counts is the one they presented to the American people & to congress when they were seeking approval: They had WMD & were seeking uranium from Africa -- both false. Without WMD, they had no case & would never have gotten approval with any other reason.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 01:04 PM
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4. Ms Liar Extraordinaire - perhaps one day she will tell it like it is - we
went in to fulfill the PNAC agenda on the short term and control earth resources on the long term - long term meaning starting in the early 1930s. We reigned over hundreds of third world countries for decades and didn't have to accelerate the process until recently. You can't take a Mobil, Shell, Amoco, Exxon and tell these people that their dominance and profits may come to an end. You can't take a Raytheon, GE, or any of the other war companies and tell them that there is going to be peace.

Perhaps one day at the age of 95 when she is released from prison and is existing back in Alabama, she might tell the truth. That is, if our country survives and if she is not living in Paraquay.

How is it that someone is born to kill masses of people by stealth, lies, plans, and the taking of lives of our soldiers while they (collectively) were taking lives of innocent mothers, fathers, children in a country that these soldiers barely knew existed before they enlisted?

Perhaps a person of musical talent and an expert on the USSR and oil companies could not conceive of prosecuting the 9-11 hijackers as criminals in court the way our Justice Dept under Clinton prosecuted the 1993 WTC bombers. Instead she chose a career of lying.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 01:08 PM
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5. YES! I did! And Russert DID NOT follow up with
Edited on Sun Oct-16-05 01:10 PM by npincus
the question: But the administratin sold this war to the general public on the threat of WMD's and mushroom clouds! Are you saying that the real reason for our Iraq invasion was changing the character of the Middle East, and if so, why did you not present this to the American public as the reason to go to war?

ANd a whole host of other questions Russert avoided.

OUTRAGEOUS.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 08:12 AM
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14. Don't be outraged by Timmy. He's in same mold as Miller, Cooper, Novak
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 01:09 PM
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6. What CondaLoser really meant was,
We didn't go into Iraq because of WMD's or terrorism. We marched in there to set up a police station in Iraq. It was seen as the best place to do it because Iraq was weak because of UN sanctions and U.S. mischief in the region.

We brought in our military and made plans to build 14 bases so we could control the Middle East. We're desperately dependent on ME oil. Without this precious Black Gold, we go back to the Stone Age.

Bush, interestingly, came out with a statement to back this up. About 1 month ago, he said "the terrorists want to control the oil. Our way of life will be at risk". I did a double-take on that one.

So CondaLiar is right. We did go in there to creat a major chage. A CHANGE for US.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 01:21 PM
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8. A major change, indeed...
Iraqui women can now get stoned to death...

What has not changed: radioactive DU particules all over Iraq's sewing system for the next 4.5 billion years...

Wow. Major change, ClowndiLies-A, indeed! :+ :nuke:
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 02:47 AM
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12. video link, please?
anyone catch this on video?
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 10:33 AM
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15. i wonder if she was wearing her new shoes
when she lied -- again -- about the reason for the war.
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meppie-meppie not Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 11:04 AM
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17. I remember during the 2000 campaign that Bush and his minions were
against "Nation building", my my...another flip flop from the Bush regime!
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 11:06 AM
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18. The most egregious statement that Russert let pass without question
was when she (like all BushCo whores) brought up 9/11 as though there were some connection between that and the War On Iraq.
I gotta write that asshole and ask him what the hell he's getting paid for, and by whom.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 02:10 PM
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19. Any moran with a brain...KNOWS it was absolutely for the OIL.
!!!!!

(And because Hussein switched from the dollar to the Euro...Just as Iran and Venezuela plan to do, or have already done).
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 02:13 PM
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20. fits with the PNAC agenda
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