Phoebe Loosinhouse
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Sun Oct-16-05 12:26 PM
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"2 years!" The new mantra of Tweety and ilk as they try to derail Fitz |
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I have heard it enough lately to believe that it is a new Republican talking point. Mathews has said on a couple of his latest shows "Fitzgerald has been looking at this thing for two years - isn't it time that he indict or quit?" (My paraphrase , but I think the underlying meaning is accurate).
I know that we are all dying for this thing to be over - but if Fitzgerald is broadening the scope of the investigation because one domino is leading to another - or more apt- if one cluster of aspens is leading to another, then he needs to have all the time he needs to adequately investigate. As Frank Rich so beautifully points out today, Rove and Libby may not be the top or the end of the chain - it may go as high as Bush and Cheney.
Anyway, Tweety seems to forget that Kenneth Starr took over three years and ended up nowhere near where the original investigation began. (There is a special prosecutor out there who has STILL not wrapped up the Cisneros investigation!) Tweety also forgets that one of the reasons this investigation has gone on so long is because of the multiple court cases and decisions that were needed to get the reporter's testimony, which has only happened this week.
So, the next time you hear "2 years! How long do they need?" the answer should be "As long as they need." Don't let these weasels force a premature ending to what could be the Crime of the Century.
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Sun Oct-16-05 12:29 PM
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1. Tweety should STFU! Does he really think that he can escape |
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ACCOUNTABILITY when this whole thing comes down? What a jackass. It's called treasonous behavior, Mr. Matthews.
Peace.
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Sun Oct-16-05 12:35 PM
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5. That bastard (Tweety) is behaving so damn MANIC lately ... |
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I'm afeared <snicker> he's gonna shed all his widdle feathers?!?
This horse's ass who's totally in love with his own voice seriously needs to be kicked off the air and replaced with a TRUE and even-tempered intellectual.
Bring Back Phil Donahue!!!
Tweety is sick-in-the-head as is clearly reflected in his recent creepy manic outbursts. He is freaking the shit out of me, et. al. :P
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Sun Oct-16-05 02:19 PM
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24. I have always said fat Tweety is a puffed-up bloviating blatherer |
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who is absolutely in love with his own voice - and who is a combination of schizophrenic and manic depressive when he reports news/events. He should either be mediated or locked up (by the mental health authorities ) for the sake of the public good.
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Sun Oct-16-05 12:30 PM
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2. Didn't Whitewater take about 7 years - in spite of the RTC clearing |
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Edited on Sun Oct-16-05 01:12 PM by higher class
the Clintons before Scaife even reached in his pocket?
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Sun Oct-16-05 12:37 PM
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Sun Oct-16-05 01:12 PM
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16. Yes, thanks - I'll edit it! |
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Sun Oct-16-05 12:32 PM
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3. these talking heads are all Rove buddies |
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They worry that they wont get invited to the holiday season parties if they speak out.
Chris Matthews is likely the most unprofesssional newshost in all of tv news.
He is afraid to do his job. His show has nothing to do with "hardball". He's a coward.
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Sun Oct-16-05 12:34 PM
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Fitz should indict the whole shebang this week ...
THANKS for the push Tweets and other GOP sycophants .....
Golbless you Patrick Fitzgerald ..... Keep safe ....
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Sun Oct-16-05 12:36 PM
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where does this guy live? work? eat? nevermind his antics, lookit HIM!
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Sun Oct-16-05 12:39 PM
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8. Another little-mentioned fact why this seems to have been |
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going on for so long is that some of the key players, when they first testified, LIED! Getting additional testimony takes time.:)
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Sun Oct-16-05 12:40 PM
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I wonder what kind of danger Fitzgerald might be in. I wonder if he's gotten any threatening phone calls, etc. The WH is evil and I would'nt put anything past them. Fitz has to be a brave man to indict.
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Sun Oct-16-05 01:17 PM
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17. Threatening a prosecutor is not a very good idea. |
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He'd have arrest warrants so fast the perps' heads would be spinning.
I don't know where people get these ideas. Maybe they just sound good. :shrug:
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OldLeftieLawyer
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Sun Oct-16-05 12:43 PM
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10. Who watches him, anyway? |
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And why?
He's nothing but a suckass - always was, always will be.
And, his lack of knowledge about how an investigator works is simply offensive.
Turn him off, and, if you like, send his show an email telling them why you're not watching any more.
Boy, if he were the one who'd been fucked over, you better believe he'd be yelping for people to get off Fitzgerald's back (although I doubt any of this even reaches Fitzgerald - which is as it should be) and let him do his job.
Moran.
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Sun Oct-16-05 12:54 PM
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14. RUFKM??? Where would I get all my talking points? |
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He's pure comic relief for me. I can't help but chuckle throught his "show." He's such a MORAN!
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Sun Oct-16-05 01:36 PM
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If that's where you get your "talking points," uh, well, yeah, sure, you're an ideal viewer for his show.
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Sun Oct-16-05 09:15 PM
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25. WTF? I was being sarcastic, dude. |
lisa58
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Sun Oct-16-05 12:45 PM
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11. Hasn't it taken two years because... |
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Cooper and Miller were fighting subpoenas for the last 12 months?
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Sun Oct-16-05 01:19 PM
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18. Yup. Miller was first subpoeaned in August 2004. Took over a year |
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to get her testimony. If not for her (and Matt Cooper), Fitzgerald could have had this wrapped up by end 2004.
On the other hand, am sure Mr. Fitzgerald made real good use of the time he had while Judy "Ginko" Miller was dragging her feetsies.
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Sun Oct-16-05 12:47 PM
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12. Two words: Ken Starr. n/t |
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Sun Oct-16-05 12:50 PM
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13. Tweety is just asking the questions that lots of people are, including |
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some here on DU. The questions are for different reasons, but still being asked.
I wouldn't worry about it. I don't think it's going to have any effect on Fitz and how he proeeds.
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Sun Oct-16-05 01:06 PM
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15. Kenneth Starr spent HOW long looking into a stain on a damn dress? |
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Fuck Tweety. Fitz can have all the time he needs.
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Sun Oct-16-05 01:20 PM
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19. Tweety, when did Cooper testify? When did Miller finally testify? |
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Edited on Sun Oct-16-05 01:21 PM by kenny blankenship
Sure if the only goal was to prosecute greasy old SLob Nofacts for a violation of one the complicated laws protecting covert identities, then the grand jury could have wrapped up a long time ago. But the crime started far up the chain from him, inside the government involving persons unknown in an apparent conspiracy to divulge Plame's identity as a covert agent and smear her husband. (Nofacts didn't name names besides Plame's in his article. He didn't give away the names of the guilty conspirators, necessitating much more prosecutorial investigation to get at them.) The other people outside the govt. who knew something about the identities of the conspirators refused to talk. One of them spent 85 days in the klinker refusing to talk. Check your court-tv schedule, Tweety. Even open and shut murder cases complete with dead bodies, recovered weapons, and suspects indicted with clear motives and opportunities can take years to try.
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Sun Oct-16-05 01:53 PM
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21. Another convenient memory lapse is that when Ashcroft |
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started his "investigation," Rove (and I believe Libby) had different stories than they do now. When they had the option of "home cooking" the environment was completely different. So Fitz actually started below ground.
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Sun Oct-16-05 01:59 PM
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22. stonewalling, secrecy, coverup, media control, intimidation |
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perhaps MR. Tweetshit would like to point out how long we've been in Iraq since the "mission was accomplished" ...
Mr. Tweetshit has no idea what the scope of the investigation is and therefore has no way of knowing whether it is being conducted in an efficient manner or not ... and perhaps he would like to point out that if the WH had been cooperative from the beginning, the process might have run more quickly ...
Mr. Tweetshit's ignorant whinings should be ignored as usual ...
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Sun Oct-16-05 02:03 PM
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23. Maybe Tweety's sweating because he lied to the Grand Jury? |
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Just a thought. But maybe same for Russert. He's certainly going out of his way to avoid the Plame investigation stories on MTP -- while George Stephanopoulos made it the lead segment on This Week.
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