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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 05:49 PM
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If Miers is not confirmed for the SC, will Bush not then nominate somebody
that the ultra-right will approve. In other words, we will be MUCH worse off than we are now.

Am I wrong in my thinking?
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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 05:50 PM
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1. Hey, you have to not go with the candidate you have.
If he brings on another one, we'll worry about that later, I believe.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 05:51 PM
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2. He might nominate Edith Jones and she's from Nutsville Central...link
Edited on Sun Oct-16-05 05:56 PM by ...of J.Temperance
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 05:51 PM
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3. Once the radical right splits with aWoL on this the business 'ConServative
will break against them the strangle hold on our Government will be broken.
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 05:56 PM
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4. You mean like the
veterinarian appointed to the women's health post??
If some indictments come down soon, his subsequent appointments can probably be handled by the Dems.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 05:57 PM
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5. Dinh.
Edited on Sun Oct-16-05 06:14 PM by mzteris
More on him while shortlisted for the position miers was nominated for.

http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110007237

She's a red herring and will step down......


(OF course, indictments of sr. admin officials may well throw a huge monkey wrench in their plans.)

adding info:

Why should we be afraid of this guy? He authored the Patriot Act.

http://www.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,62388,00.html


http://www.overthrow.com/lsn/news.asp?articleID=2214


Viet Dinh, a Vietnamese immigrant (he wrote a moving account of his family's perilous journey to the United States in a 1993 Op-Ed piece in the New York Times) and Georgetown Law Center professor, has been chosen as Assistant Attorney General for Policy Development. Described by a colleague as a "conservative hotshot," he worked with former Senator Alfonse D'Amato on the Whitewater investigation and is close to active members of the Federalist Society. In addition to being the department's point man for judicial selection, he will have major responsibility for developing its priorities.
http://www.commondreams.org/views01/0713-01.htm



The interesting thing is that Viet Dinh currently holds a seat on the Board of Directors of News Corps, FOX News Channel's parent company. http://www.newshounds.us/radical_right/index.php


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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 06:04 PM
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6. I don't see how it'd be any worse.
This woman is braincorked to the right, but she doesn't even have the decency to be smart at the same time. If he nominates someone who'se clever but right wing, there's at least a chance of them making SOME smart decisions. With Miers. . . hell, she'll probably call George to ask him how to vote on the really tricky cases.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 08:02 PM
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12. Yes, BUT...
If she calls Bush and LAURA answers the phone, she is pro-choice. She MAY give her advice we WANT her to give!
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 03:11 PM
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14. Naaah. You don't chit chat with the wife of the man you are in love with.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 06:14 PM
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7. the dems INC must stand for their principles when they get some...
and if bush keeps sending up the wrong kind of candidate the dems ought to keep voting no. in any even they cannot stop the nomination or the appointment, so at least the dems ought to have some sort of scruples.

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 06:15 PM
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8. Let's take each
appointee as a free-standing person. If he continues to nominate unacceptable people, we need to publicize the reasons we disagree and pressure Congress to reject them.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 06:26 PM
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9. I don't think he go ultra right, I think he'll go with Gonzales
Bush doesn't like disloyalty, so he won't kowtow to the ultraright in this case, though he might in other cases.

Bush wants to get his buddy Gonzales on the court, real bad. He may have set up Miers, figuring that if she slips through, it's a safe pick for his purposes, but if she fails, he can put up Gonzales.

I think Bush is being a bit blinded by his cronyism and buffetted by his safety zone these days. His brain itches and is distracted.

I think it would be great if Miers gets shot down in committee in flames, then Bush puts up Gonzales, who goes through committee, but gets defeated in the Senate by a coalition of Democratics and ultraright conservative Senators. Then Bush puts up a hard right candidate who gets defeated by a coalition of Democratics and moderate Republicans. By then time, O'Connor would have had a chance to vote on many of this terms cases and the Bush regime and Republicans would be in middle to late stages of a spectacular implosion. I would like that.
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GOPNotForMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 06:55 PM
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10. When I read your title without the accompanying body...
I couldn't help but conjure this image of El Presidente crossing his arms and pouting in the corner saying "No!" to Karl paternally telling him that he has to move on and nominate someone else. Heh.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 07:41 PM
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11. Some speculation
has been that he will dis the RW nut jobs for not backing Miers. He expects loyalty and if they don't support Miers at the end of the day all bets are off on the next one.

Maybe Gonzalez.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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RDANGELO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 08:16 PM
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13. Thats true but *bush may be substantially weaker by then.
If indictments come down for high people in the administration, and the passing of the referendum shows no effects on the stability in Iraq, it might make the difference in a successful blocking of a right wing nominee.
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wmills551 Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 03:19 PM
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15. You are totally correct, of course!
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ochazuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 03:30 PM
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16. I think you're wrong
Miers seems to be the a reliable vote for both overturning Roe v Wade as well as establishing corporate domination of our lives and governement.

At least a principled conservative like Scalia might vote against corporate interests occassionally as I think he did in the eminent domain case.

At least with a nominee that the hard-right likes, we can have a debate on weather we want a fascist state.

Or, bush might nominate Gonzales because Dems would be sure to go for him as the lesser of evils.
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