About Our Next President - Remember these words.

[Jester_11218]

I have read a few threads here related to the next president; one a poll & the other an regular thread on Edwards.

I am going to go out on a limb here and declare that Edwards will indeed be the next Democratic nominee for president and he may become president, but not for the reasons you might think.

Edwards has been welcomed into the community of secret power brokers known as the Bilderberg group. It is for this reason I believe he will rise to power.

If Edwards does in indeed become president I would like you to remember my words here. I would like you all to take your eyes OFF the ball and start looking behind the ball.

It is enough to say that our election process (rigging) has been compromised, putting into question our democracy and taking the decision to choose our leaders out of the hands of the people. But we have to ask this question: Do we even choose the pool of leaders we select from during elections.

Look at all of our Presidents. You can trace even the most obscure figures, like an Arkansas Governor or a Georgia Peanut farmer, to one of several organizations such as the Trilateral Commission or the Council on Foreign Relations. Even Regan, who promised never to select George H. W. Bush as a running mate because he was with the Skull and Bones, dramatically changed his position after meeting with members of the Trilateral Commission.

Clinton had over 400 members of the Council on Foreign Relations in his administration.

Both the TLC and CFR leadership partake in the notorious Bilderberg Group meetings. (Google this little clutch of friends.) Both the TLC and the CFR are secret societies. You can not apply for a job with them. You can not join them. You have to be selected, have that selection approved and then pass an approval process. This is not how open organizations operate. They are secretive and they dictate policy (do some research on this). Who are these people and why do they yield such influence? Members of the media, even on screen anchors (Peter Jennings was a member of the Trilateral Commission), are members. What are they doing? Why are they members? Why don't they report on these secret organizations that influence or dictate policy in this nation?

I ask you all to keep an open mind, keep your eyes and ears open, and ask yourselves the common sense questions that apply to these very suspicious organizations and their involvement in our government.
Thank you.

Think about it.
Peace,
Jesse - Editor, TvNewsLIES.org

[barbaraann]

1. Here's a devastating article along those lines.....

The Clinton Legacy
A return to Hooverite economic policies
By Edward S. Herman


Bill Clinton has been getting mixed reviews on his “legacy” in the mainstream media: commonly he is downgraded for regrettable personal defects that made him a poor role model and lowered the esteem of his high office; but he gets good marks for his domestic economic policies that have given us sustained prosperity, high marks for his foreign economic policies that have advanced “free trade,” and a fairly high grade for his other foreign policies. The only point on which I agree with this assessment is the first, although it is the least important and, of course, was used by the right wing to attack and weaken him by outrageous methods and for the wrong reasons.


Politics

A first important component of the Clinton legacy is his contribution to moving the political spectrum to the right. As soon as he hit office Clinton abandoned any serious populist agenda and policies that would “put people first” in favor of catering to the bond market and business generally. His strategy over his eight years was to preempt Republican positions on the social and military budgets, deficit reduction, welfare, crime, capital punishment, the drug war, trade, and foreign policy. This helped him keep business funds flowing his way, and it kept an important segment of the corporate media, along with many liberals and pundits, on his side, but it weakened the support of the abandoned “people.” This was important in helping the Gingrich Republicans win in 1994, and it set the stage for Bush in 2000. So we can even say that the Republican victories, with their attendant further shifts toward regressive economic and social policies, were part of the Clinton legacy.

It has been noted that the large number of black males excluded from voting in the 2000 presidential election by imprisonment or former felon status made a significant difference in the election outcome, arguably a blowback effect of Clinton’s hardline policies on crime and the drug war. Less noted is the fact that Nader might not have run at all if the Clinton policies had not represented a comprehensive sell-out of populist principles. That sell-out has been institutionalized, as Democratic National Council officials, policy-analysts, and policy-makers, several of whom have publicly criticized Gore for his brief and unconvincing foray into populist rhetoric during the campaign, are now firmly in charge of the Party and quite ready to accept the coup d’etat president and do business with him.
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more: http://www.zmag.org/ZMag/articles/mar01herman.htm

[Der Blaue Engel]

2. Secret power brokers

Yes, any time a Democrat does something good, we must immediately ascribe possible nefarious motives and conspiracies. :eyes:

[Jester_11218]

6. What are you saying?

Any time a valid point is raised that may cast an ugly shadow, people make blanket statements. Did I say anything that was invalid?

Maybe, instead of being defensive you may just want to sit back and think about what I said for a while. Perhaps take a little time to research the links to these organizations.

[Der Blaue Engel]

7. I'll do that n/t

[SteppingRazor]

3. You can't just join the American Enterprise Institute either...

Or the Cato Institute, etc., etc.

The CFR is a think tank, just like any other -- albeit one with an impressive membership.

The Trilateral Commission and the Bilderberg Group essentially do the same thing -- offer an unofficial meeting place for the world's movers and shakers, in order to establish mutually beneficial policy. Certainly, not the most democratic of institutions, but hardly a force for world domination.

But then again, they could all be arms of the Illuminati. :tinfoilhat:

[Jester_11218]

8. You may want to look into these groups.

There are some very odd facts relating to the members of these groups and their positions within government.

I'll take yout little tinfoil hat if you want to give me one and I will wear it with pride until I hear something that can expain, in detail, who these people are, who funds them, and why they seem to yield such power.

They do indeed yield power...history, documented history proves this. Research. No theory there...just a long documented track record.

[Jester_11218]

10. EVERYONE: Watch this Video

http://www.unlearning.org/library/conspire.wmv

Then we can discuss things.

[Totally Committed]

12. That was a bummer, but nothing I didn't already know.

The question is... what can we do about it? Seems like they have pretty much been around sonce the 19th century, and have a very strong foot-hold on things by now, and armies to back it up if necessary. They have all th emoney and power, too.

What is there to talk about? I don't get it. Any ideas?

TC

[Jester_11218]

14. Just keep people informed.

n/t

[Totally Committed]

17. I do, and I tell them to stay away from Corporatist entities

like the DLC, too. These are the people doing the bidding for organizations like this. I truly believe that, and tell people whenever I can to resist voting for anyone who is DLC or Bilderberg.

I will keep it up.

TC

[Totally Committed]

4. I hear ya, Jesse... very disturbing.

I've been saying the same thing about the Bilderbergers (those chosen by the Bildergerg group) for a long time now. They don't call the Bilderberg Group the "FATHER'S of Globalization" for nothing.

On edit: Mark Warner attended this year.
http://global-elite.org/elitewiki/index.php/Bilderberg_2005_May_5th-8th

TC

[Jester_11218]

5. One thing you have to ask...

All the organizations...even the American Enterprise Institute...who funds them? How do they make money? Where does the money come from to even start a group like this?

Follow the money...find the power.

[Totally Committed]

9. Google it... See all the names, and the countries from which they come.

You'll understand. Please read up on this if you don't know about it.

On edit: start here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_Group

The Bilderberg Group is a group of influential people, mostly politicians and business people, whose existence and activities are private, and due to its secretive nature is the subject of numerous conspiracy theories. The group meets annually at five-star resorts throughout the world, normally in Europe, although sometimes in America or Canada. It has an office in Leiden, South Holland.
Although the group has no official name, the "Bilderberg Group" title comes from what is generally recognized to be the location of its first official meeting in 1954: the Bilderberg Hotel in Arnhem, the Netherlands.

The group has been depicted as an international cabal of the influental and the affluent: politicians, financiers, and media and business moguls; the elite of the elite. Some believe that they have dictated national policies, rigged (or outright stolen) national elections, caused wars, recessions, and ordered murders and ousters of world leaders.

There's much more to read at this link, and lots of articles linked from there...

TC

[Union Thug]

11. I admittedly don't know much about this..BUT

I do know that business interests hate democracy, hate democratic values and have but one interest..Profits. So, while I'm not sure where I weigh in on this, I can say, this sort of anti-democratic organizing has numerous precedents in this country. Case in point, the "Citizens Alliance" that used propaganda and state muscle to kill picketing Teamsters in 1934.

The good news is, if we organize and have the collective spine to fight, these unholy alliances can be defeated.

[frogmarch]

13. Edwards not a member

Whatever the group really is, Edwards isn't a member.

He was invited to speak at one of the meetings, and he accepted. Here's a snip from NYT's UnderReported.com:

Mr. Edwards spoke so well in a debate on American politics with the Republican Ralph Reed that participants broke Bilderberg rules to clap before the end of the session. Beforehand, Mr. Edwards traveled to Brussels to meet with NATO officials, brandishing his foreign-policy credentials.

http://www.underreported.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=1345&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

[Jester_11218]

15. There is no membership.

They are not an official entity. There is no building or corporation. The name is not even theirs by choice. He has been accepted into their world. They like him. Now...sit back and watch.
Then come and talk to me...in 2 years, or 6...just watch. He will be groomed. Mark my words.

[frogmarch]

16. This link lists Bilderberg members

http://www.bilderberg.org/bilder.htm#members

And there is an Advisory and a Steering group composed of members.


All the anti-Bilderberg info I've found while searching the www so far is put out by Republicanz and religious fanatics. I wonder why.

[Totally Committed]

18. Probably because it interferes with their own plans for World Domination,

or because they didn't think of it first... :sarcasm:

In reality, these are the people who think that Bar Codes are Satan Worship. Take your advice from whence it comes.

TC