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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 03:43 PM
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John Hannah clearinghouse
Please tell me who he is, what he does in the administration and WHY he's spilling the beans to Fitz.

Thanks :hi:
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 03:50 PM
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1. Sorry, I saw that name and immediately thought of the Scottish actor

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bikebloke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 03:52 PM
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4. Same here
Does that mean the end of the Rebus series?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 03:57 PM
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7. I thought of all time NFL All Pro Tackle for the NE Patriots
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:01 PM
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8. Greatest offensive lineman ever
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 03:50 PM
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2. Why? I suspect it's something to do w/his testicles and a vise. -eom
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 03:51 PM
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3. Me too! Been away from DU all day and haven't heard about this!
What's up? There are so many threads I can't seem to follow a trail.

Nutshell info anyone?
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 03:54 PM
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5. .
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:03 PM
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9. Thank you for the link! n/t
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 03:54 PM
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6. Apparently he flipped
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:04 PM
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10. Heh Heh Thank you!
:bounce:
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 05:06 PM
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11. Hanna-Barbera cartoons?
:shrug:
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 06:16 PM
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12. I don't think so....unless they had bars on 'em n/t
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 06:24 PM
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13. Neo-Con Agenda: Iran, China, Russia, Latin America ...
Edited on Tue Oct-18-05 06:25 PM by Roland99
http://www.independent-media.tv/item.cfm?fmedia_id=9713&fcategory_desc=Project%20for%20a%20New%20American%20Century

WASHINGTON, Nov 5 (IPS) - An influential foreign-policy neo-conservative with longstanding ties to top hawks in the administration of President George W Bush has laid out what he calls ''a checklist of the work the world will demand of this president and his subordinates in a second term.''

The list, which begins with the destruction of Fallujah in Iraq and ends with the development of ''appropriate strategies'' for dealing with threats posed by China, Russia and ''the emergence of a number of aggressively anti-American regimes in Latin America,'' also calls for ''regime change'' in Iran and North Korea.

The list's author, Frank Gaffney, the founder and president of the Centre for Security Policy (CSP), also warns that Bush should resist any pressure arising from the anticipated demise of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat to resume peace talks that could result in Israel's giving up ''defensible boundaries.''

<...>

In addition to Cheney and Rumsfeld, he cited the most clearly identified -- and controversial -- neo-conservatives serving in the administration: Cheney's chief of staff, I Lewis ''Scooter'' Libby; his top Middle East advisors, John Hannah and David Wurmser; weapons proliferation specialist Robert Joseph and top Mideast aide Elliott Abrams, on the National Security Council (NSC).



http://www.juancole.com/2004_02_01_juancole_archive.html

Saturday, February 07, 2004

John Hannah Allegedly Focus of Plame Probe

Richard Sale, respected intelligence reporter for UPI, has given credibility to a story that had been rumored for several weeks . It is that the FBI investigation into the outing of CIA operative Valerie Plame is increasingly focusing on two officials in the office of Vice President Dick Cheney, Lewis "Scooter" Libby and John Hannah. Sale assures me that the information is solid.

Last summer, former ambassador Joseph Wilson went public about his 2002 report refuting the allegation that Saddam tried to buy Niger uranium. Someone in the Bush administration attempted to punish him by identifying his wife, Valerie Plame, as a CIA operative involved in trying to prevent proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. The information was given to the press, but only one reporter, CNN commentator Robert Novak, was sleazy enough to publish it. (Outraged readers should please email CNN demanding that they fire Novak for having wilfully damaged US national security). Novak did not commit a crime. But whatever Bush administration official leaked the information to him did.

Libby and Hannah form part of a 13-man vice presidential advisory team, sort of a veep NSC, which helps underpin Cheney's dominance in the US foreign policy area. Hannah is a neoconservative and old cold warrior who is really more of a Soviet expert than a Middle East expert. But in the 90s he for a while headed up the Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP), a think tank that represents the interests of the American Israel Political Action Committee (AIPAC). Hannah is said to have been behind Cheney's and consequently Bush's support for refusing to deal with Yasser Arafat. But he was also deeply involved in getting up the Iraq war.

If Hannah and Libby initiated the outing of Valerie Plame, why? Of course, both their involvement and their motives can only be speculated about at this point. But on December 9, Newsweek reported that:

<snipped>


Hmm...another PNAC/AIPAC link.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 07:11 PM
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14. Maybe we should add WINEP to that PNAC/AIPAC link
As Juan Cole notes, Hannah headed up WINEP for a while in the 90s (I think I read somewhere else hat John Hannah had been the Vice President of WINEP).


Anyway, here's more on WINEP:
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/org/winep.php
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 07:34 PM
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15. And, yet again, the Israeli link >>>
Like the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA) and other right-wing and Zionist policy institutes, WINEP aims to cultivate close ties among senior military officials in the United States and Israel, and also with high military officials in Turkey and Jordan. According to WINEP, its "innovative Military Fellows program allows officials to "share experiences, develop ties, and work on complementary projects." In addition, WINEP "has the rare distinction-along with Harvard, RAND, and MIT-of being a participant in the U.S. Air Force's National Defense Fellows Program." (1)

WINEP is closely associated with the Jaffee Center for Strategic Studies at Tel Aviv University through its overlapping staff. The longtime director of the center was Major General Aharon Yariv, former government minister and director of intelligence who died in 1994. Funds for the creation of the center were "provided mainly by members of Jewish communities of the United States who have proved aware of and sensitive to the need for such an institution in Israel." The center conducts research on "matters related to Israel's national security" and it aims "to contribute to the public debate and governmental deliberation of issues that are-or should be-at the top of Israel's national security agenda." (2)

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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 08:03 PM
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16. Yes
Juan Cole wrote this piece (below) in August 30, 2004 that discusses this AIPAC, PNAC, Likud, WINEP connection. I think it's worth a quick read, under the circumstances. It also delves into that dilemma that inevitably occurs, even on DU: Sometimes, it becomes difficult to get into much detail about the Israeli thing without some people getting defensive and calling others anti-semitic.

When that happens, I think it is proof positive that we need to find an acceptable means of discussing how PNAC, AIPAC, WINEP and the hawkish Likud Israeli political system have infiltrated (and continue to infiltrate) our current (mis)administration without pointing fingers and calling people anti-semitic.

I view this issue as a political issue, not a race or religious issue.

I am reminded of a conversation I had with my volunteer supervisor prior to the election. We were discussing info that we had both become aware of relating to PNAC. It is difficult to discuss PNAC without also discussing the Israeli issue and various members of PNAC who have apparent dual American-Israeli citizenship and allegiances, and to question their motives. Also, the first news about the Franklin/AIPAC scandal had emerged at that time.

About halfway through the conversation, it dawned on me he might be Jewish (instinct and the luck I have about putting my foot in mouth told me so) so I stopped and asked him, "Are you Jewish?" He said "yes" and I apologized immediately for anything I might have said that might have offended him. He quickly said NOT to apologize, that nothing in the discussion was offensive and that he understood fully my concerns and he, himself, had similar concerns.

He then proceeded to tell me about his cousin in Israel, who was just getting out of prison for not completing his mandatory stint in the Israeli military. Instead of fighting, his cousin had opted to go to jail. He went into further detail about the hawk Likud party, and the more leftist doves, and how we in America are often not told the full story about how many people in Israel do not support their current Likud administration, etc. He recognized how Bush & Co. had numerous people calling the shots who appeared to have dual allegiances to America and Israel.

Anyone listening to his conversation taken out of context might have thought him anti-semitic, as he was very critical of the Likud agenda and the neoconservatives in American politics.

It was an enlightening conversation.

Anyway, as Cole notes in this piece, I think we need to find ways to discuss these types of important issues. By not calling out truth to power for fear of being called racist, bigoted (or anti-semitic in this case) stagnates the dialog and allows the neocon agenda and Bush & Co. to continue with their blatant, authoritarian, hawkish ways. It allows us to determine what policies are best for our own country vs. those that aren't.




AIPAC's Overt and Covert Ops

by Juan Cole


The American Israel Public Affairs Committee is a lobbying group that used to support whatever government was in power in Israel, and used to give money evenhandedly inside the U.S. My perception is that during the past decade AIPAC has increasingly tilted to the Likud in Israel, and to the political Right in the United States. In the 1980s, AIPAC set up the Washington Institute for Near East Policy as a pro-Israeli alternative to the Brookings Institution, which it perceived to be insufficiently supportive of Israel. WINEP has largely followed AIPAC into pro-Likud positions, even though its director, Dennis Ross, is more moderate. He is a figurehead, however, serving to disguise the far right character of most of the position papers produced by long-term WINEP staff and by extremist visitors and "associates" (Daniel Pipes and Martin Kramer are among the latter).

WINEP, being a wing of AIPAC, is enormously influential in Washington. State Department and military personnel are actually detailed there to "learn" about "the Middle East"! They would get a far more balanced "education" about the region in any Israeli university, since most Israeli academics are professionals, whereas WINEP is a "think tank" that hires by ideology.

I did some consulting with one U.S. company that had a government contract, and they asked me about WINEP position papers (many of them are just propaganda). When I said I would take them with a grain of salt, the guy said his company had "received direction" to pay a lot of attention to the WINEP material! So discipline is being imposed even on the private sector.

Note that over 80% of American Jews vote Democrat, that the majority of American Jews opposed the Iraq war (more were against it than in the general population), and that American Jews have been enormously important in securing civil liberties for all Americans. Moreover, Israel has been a faithful ally of the U.S. and deserves our support in ensuring its security. The Likudniks like to pretend that they represent American Jewry, but they do not. And they like to suggest that objecting to their policies is tantamount to anti-Semitism, which is sort of like suggesting that if you don't like Chile's former dictator Pinochet, you are bigoted against Latinos.


http://www.antiwar.com/cole/?articleid=3467



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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 09:57 PM
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17. I agree with your thoughts there.
There's a difference between criticizing the Jewish culture/faith and criticizing the Israeli government. They are separate entities (however closely they may be tied...sort of like Christianity and our own government.)

The government doesn't represent the mainstream aspect of that religion.
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