Sheehan vs. Clinton: no doy!

[Cocoa]

it's being reported by WorldNetDaily and Rush Limbaugh as if it's somehow news that an anti-war leader would oppose Hillary Clinton vigorously.

I wonder why people are playing along?

This is old news people. Hillary Clinton is among the most pro-war democrats. During Bush's pre-war State of the Union, it was a race between Clinton and Lieberman as to who would stand up and applaud first.

Clinton will get approx. 0% of the antiwar vote in the 2008 primaries. All votes she will get will be from people who are voting on something other than the war.

[meegbear]

1. Link?

[Larkspur]

2. I pray that Cindy will abort Hillary's Prez bid

I wonder if Hillary will send Bill or if Bill will go on his own to Cindy to try to placate the spunky anti-war mom?

[leetrisck]

3. Not very likely - limbaugh and wnd - boy are we

ever slipping - is this where Cindy's publicity is coming from these days. I'm sick of her.

[PuraVidaDreamin]

6. well now, you can't make a comment like that without an explanation.

She rallied the antiwar movement. What exactly about
her is your beef? Unless you actually like the war.

[leetrisck]

7. Yeah, it makes my living

cindy can't keep her story straight - talks from both sides of her mouth and there doesn't seem to be much of an anti-war movement at the moment.

[Cocoa]

4. how could Sheehan abort Clinton's bid?

you would have to think that a motivated antiwar voter might have otherwise voted for Clinton in the primaries. Do you think that's possible? Do you think the dems could find a more hawkish candidate if they tried?

[lancdem]

12. Hillary has already met with her

I'm assuming you knew that.

[Dawgs]

5. I agree that Hillary is pro-war and not the greatest Dem, but...

Do we really need this right now? All of the news should be on Delay, Rove, Cheney, Miers, and Bush.

Anytime a new story comes out about the Clintons, the media runs with it. I don't usually agree with this, but let's stop stirring the pot in our own party until all of the Republican criminals are in jail.

[Cocoa]

8. in a way that's what I'm saying

I'm saying that to discuss whether Clinton is prowar is pointless, especially if it's done in a way that suggests it's somehow controversial.

She's prowar, everyone knows it, anyone who is voting against the war is going to vote for anyone but Clinton in 2008.

[bunkerbuster1]

9. This just in: Worshippers of Right Wing Stooges are not bright.

I've read some posts in newsgroups by people who have just learned that there are liberal democrats who loathe Hillary's Iraq war stance.

They think it's absolutely devastating that Hillary and Cindy Sheehan aren't engaging in lesbian hot-tub maneuvers. (Don't get after me: that's how they think.)

Their idiocy is boundless. and they probably represent 10-15% of the voting public.

[Cocoa]

11. yep, evidence right here at the end of the WND story

On a political messageboard online, one writer notes, "Who would have thought that Hillary's candidacy could be in trouble because she's not far enough to the left?"

my answer: everyone with half a brain, moran!

[_ed_]

13. Good job by the Mainstream Media in perpetrating that myth

Hillary Clinton is a "super-liberal." Complete nonsense. She's well to the right of her husband, who was very moderate. She's never been what I would call a "liberal."

Amazing how they control the debate with falsehoods.

[AntiCoup2K4]

14. Her first political experience was the Goldwater campaign for fucks sake!!

While it's true that Barry Goldwater looks completely sensible compared to the neocons of today, in his time he was the bleeding edge of psychotic right wing conservatism.

Those are Hillary's political roots. And as I said, the shit she votes for now would probably scare Goldwater himself!

I doubt she was EVER a Liberal.

[bunkerbuster1]

15. A cow-orker told me Franken was far left.

Pretty sure the phrase he used was that Al's "probably the farthest-left person on the air today."

Mind you, he's never actually heard a second of Franken's show (yes, I asked). I'm sure he's gleaned this "information" from rock solid sources as Sean Hanjob and Neal Boortz. I informed my colleague that Franken supported the Iraq invasion and is centrist if not center-right by Air America standards, but I could tell that those distinctions were more or less lost on him.

[lancdem]

10. It is a tempest in a teapot