Pat Buchanan: my guess is that there are multiple indictments coming

[Bumblebee]

October 20, 2005 | 11:52 a.m. ET

My take on Plamegate (Pat Buchanan)

During Watergate, a good friend went to prison for saying twice before a grand jury, "I can't recall." That was about a picayune matter compared to Judy Miller's "I can't recall" to the question, "Who gave you this name, 'Valerie Flame'?"

So, my guess is that there are multiple indictments coming, for lying to investigators, perjury, obstruction of justice, and disclosure of national security secrets for political purposes. And maybe conspiracy.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9601200/#051019a


He just posted it.

[MADem]

1. UH_OH!!!!!!!!!!!

To hear what they are saying in the White House, click on this link: (requires Real Audio) http://www.toontracker.com/nutty/uhoh.ram

But LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE!!! The Bush Legacy was to be that he would be a UNITER, NOT A DIVIDER. When the full extent of the disgraceful behavior of this administration is laid bare, the country will be united, and standing at the gates of the White House with torches and pitchforks!!!

[tk2kewl]

2. "and disclosure of national security secrets for political purposes"

:woohoo:

That is the BIG one!

[mzmolly]

3. I hope he's right.

He's been there before.

[Tamarin]

4. He thinks the Iraq war is going well?

I wonder if that was a typo and should have read *not going well* instead of *now going well*.

[mnmoderatedem]

10. I think that's the case

Buchanan has always been critical of the war, and has been very consistent in that regard.

Plus there's no reason to believe the war is going well now at all.

I think it's a typo...

[The Revolution]

5. "But if lying us into war is a crime..."

"But if lying us into war is a crime, we would have to have a second look at that FDR memorial on the trail to Haynes Point.)"

What the hell is he talking about here? Does he think the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor wasn't real? :wtf:

[hippiechick]

9. Some think FDR LIHOP'd Pearl Harbor

... as a reason to get into WWII. We had no justification prior to that.

[bballny]

6. Fitzgerald's background is

the son of a doorman in NY. He was a doorman during the summers. He probably doesn't really like abuse of power by privilege. Being a doorman let him know which of the elites were honest and nice and respected him. It probably also showed him the bad side of these people and the ones who looked down their nose and him. I suspect he thinks this clan is the latter.

[emulatorloo]

7. Pat has some real interesting speculation here "Big Case" & AIPAC overlap

<snip>

My own sense, from hearing and reading about Fitzgerald is that he may be going after much larger game, that he may have what Bob Bennett calls a "big case," that he may be going after the White House and WHIG for fabricating the case for war, that he is roaming afield, looking into who forged the Niger documents and passed them on to U.S. intelligence and whether the case for war was shot through with deceit and lies. (But if lying us into war is a crime, we would have to have a second look at that FDR memorial on the trail to Haynes Point.)

An interesting question is whether Fitzgerald is now working with McNulty, who got Larry Franklin to plead and is now going after AIPAC and the Israelis and has the fruits of five years of FBI investigations going back into the 1990s. Are the two Irish prosecutors collaborating?

<snip>

[mountainvue]

8. I'm begining to lose hope.

Why haven't they been handed down yet?

[frogmarch]

11. Maybe the GJ

hasn't decided yet. Or maybe the GJ hasn't decided yet on ALL the would-be indictments. Such decisions are up to them, not Fitz. They have to present Fitz with a "true bill" in order for an indictment to happen. Please correct me if I am wrong.