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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 09:37 PM
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Fitzgerald: his experience with the snooty rich shaped his worldview
http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh072505.html

VON DREHLE: Fitzgerald is the son of Irish immigrants—"fresh off the boat," in the words of John Goggins, a prominent corporate lawyer in New York who has known Fitzgerald since high school. He grew up in the Flatbush neighborhood of Brooklyn and won a scholarship to Regis High School in Manhattan, a highly competitive Jesuit academy.

He worked his way through Amherst College, cleaning the school's restrooms and painting walls. In summers, the math and economics major earned more tuition money as a school janitor and part-time doorman in some of the same Upper East Side luxury buildings where his father had worked as a doorman for years.

Fitzgerald got his fill of rich and powerful people that way, Goggins said.

"He had numerous funny anecdotes about being treated shabbily by residents who didn't realize this was a Phi Beta Kappa from Amherst, and later a Harvard Law School student, holding the door." According to his friends, Fitzgerald never resented the slights, but he also made it clear that he was never going to seek the approval of such people.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 09:41 PM
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1. That's why he's not intimidated by them now either. n/t
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 09:44 PM
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2. Just the kinda guy...
You want for an investigator of such people..those slights haven't been forgotten..even if no actual grudge is held...
windbreeze
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:45 AM
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39. I like the way the article puts it, that he doesn't seek their approval.
The elites he's investigating aren't used to people being unimpressed with them.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 09:44 PM
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3. Jesuit academy - he probably has a sense of "social justice", then. -eom
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 01:01 AM
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31. More than likely
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 08:57 AM
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44. Regis is top-notch New York Catholic
The best Catholic High School in the city (sorry Saint Francis Prep, you know it's true...and Archbishop Malloy, don't even bother, unless you're talking basketball ;-)).

The New York City Catholicism of Fitzgerald's youth bears no resemblance to the kooky right wing Catholicism practiced in America's suburbs today. The hard-nosed immigrant communities from Ireland and Italy simply wouldn't put up with that brand of horseshit.
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 12:28 PM
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51. If you were a bad guy...
Edited on Sat Oct-22-05 12:28 PM by Davis_X_Machina
...would you want a prossie after you who said this prayer a couple hundred times, and might have internalized it?


Lord, teach me to be generous.
Teach me to serve you as you deserve;
to give without counting the cost;
to fight and not to heed the wounds;
to toil and not to seek for rest;
to labor and not to ask for reward,
except to know that I am doing your will.

I know I wouldn't.....

(Prayer of St. Ignatius).
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 09:44 PM
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4. I am shocked that this man has been allowed to operate to his
full potential. People like him generally get trounced, swiftboated, fired, sucker-punched, sued and gagged. He is the exception to the rule.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 09:49 PM
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5. he's an example of exceptional brilliance rewarded
and B*sh is the diametrically (un) gifted who has been rewarded... it seems like some law of physics should not allow those two to inhabit the same planet. Or universe.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 09:57 PM
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7. Yes, or maybe the physics of the universe makes it inevitable that
they come together.

:thumbsup:
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 09:58 PM
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8. let me guess... we'll finally get to see that elusive "mushroom cloud"?
Edited on Thu Oct-20-05 10:02 PM by npincus
tee hee
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:08 PM
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11. "Matter" - meet "Antimatter"................. Kaboom!!!!!!!!
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:14 PM
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14. LOL. You said it in fewer words.
:toast:
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:30 AM
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41. This image is crying out for a graphics whiz!
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:14 PM
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13. Yes: Anti-matter (the guy who's above giving a shit) meets Matter
(the guy who doesn't think any work is beneath him, and who really does care) collide, and the dominant paradigm (a vast cathedral constructed of lies) is annihilated.

There's your smoking gun, right there.

:)
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Gronk Groks Donating Member (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:28 PM
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15. Yin and Yang...
...the universe 'balances' all things. Very weird, totally unscientific, but true. In time both good and evil, chaos and order, light and dark; become equal.

If Bush exists; then a Fitzpatrick will rise up to confront him. No matter who wins the contest of the day, the opponent will reappear in another guise or the winner will retire.

Bush has been asserting his brand of evil for almost 5 years. The wheel of fate is turning and as Bush descends, Fitzpatrick ascends.

Ok, enough with the pseudo-religious BS. It works and I LIKE IT...

:evilgrin: :toast: :beer: :headbang: :yourock: :woohoo:
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Hapameli Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:41 PM
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19. Newton's Third Law
For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:44 PM
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20. oooooh, that's what I was trying to place!
Edited on Thu Oct-20-05 10:44 PM by npincus
That Newton, still relevant after all these years!
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:48 PM
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23. "Ok, enough with the pseudo-religious BS. It works and I LIKE IT..."
:rofl:

Genius! The essence of pragmatism.

:)
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 01:02 AM
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32. Makes sense
Maybe Fitzgerald is the one who is here to bring ballance back. Some amazing responsibility for him.
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 01:23 AM
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34. Or Fitz its the Oracle and Rove is the Architect. Bush is more like
the Matrix it's self, built by the Architect with one purpose - to ultimately crash and burn, or simply blue screen.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 08:39 AM
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43. I ..
.... absolutely believe in universal balance. You can see it everywhere.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 09:54 PM
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6. He's still young. Give him time. Give THEM time. n/t
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:03 PM
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9. read the the rude pundits article on fitz-
its yesterdays 10/19...seems fitz is one tough cookie
http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/
The Rude Pundit
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 08:25 AM
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42. thanks...
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:05 PM
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10. I love it. He has that sense of social justice and disdain for the
arrogant, born-on-third-base types and he comes from the point of view of the underdog.

The son of Irish immigrants is a huge IMO - shapes his entire outlook.
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Montauk6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:13 PM
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12. OH NO!!! Then he MUST have an agenda!!!!!
:sarcasm:
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:28 PM
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16. Oh, swoon.
Edited on Thu Oct-20-05 10:29 PM by crispini
Everything I hear about this guy just makes me want to drive up to Washington, fling myself at his feet, and offer to bear his children. :loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya:
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:30 PM
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17. he's single, you know...
Edited on Thu Oct-20-05 10:35 PM by npincus
tee hee


map per surveyusa approval ratings from 10/18

( map courtesy of ticapnews at: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2170887&mesg_id=2171450)
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:44 PM
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21. Don't...
encourage me. :evilgrin:
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:46 PM
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22. ...and tall, dark, handsome....
who cares if he works late nights and weekends?

tee hee
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 12:08 AM
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27. and Irish!
and from NY!And all the things on my checklist of potential second husbands. <g>

I would gladly allow someone else to have him in exchange for resignations GALORE!
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 10:22 AM
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50. yum yum
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Gronk Groks Donating Member (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:58 PM
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24. Love the map...
...just take the red out of it and it would be perfect !!!
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:02 PM
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25. props to DUer ticapnews
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 01:08 AM
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33. I know what you mean!
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:33 PM
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18. I will not question this guy.
The only problem is the connections
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 12:05 AM
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26. I want to have his children
this is my dream husband.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 12:43 AM
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28. You go guy - there is no excuse for ignorant behaviour amongst people
who have so much choice.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 12:55 AM
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29. I read this aspect of his history. The other thing it points to is
a strong and highly tuned intellect. Math and econ are no bull shit majors, especially at a school like Amherst (hey, maybe he's reading TruthIsAll;) The combination of his introduction to class discrimination, plus his very strong intellect are the key. He won't stop until he solves the problem and he will be able to show that his work conforms to all the rules of acceptable evidence.

This guy could be one of the great lawyers in our history...if he leans into it and presses for the highest truth of these events.

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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:44 AM
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38. Imagine someone like him nominated for the Supreme Court.
Compare Harriet Miers. What a joke.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 11:11 AM
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47. !!!!!Right!!!!! n/t
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 01:00 AM
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30. Good to know!
Fitzgerald is one amazing man! *sigh* I am reading so much more that is getting me so excited about indictments!
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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 02:03 AM
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35. He sounds like a real American hero. That's why...
... when I watch him walk out of the courthouse I wish he was getting inside the freakin' PopeMobile! JMJ, get some body armor and a helmet on, man! You're scarin' the crap outta me! :hide:
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 02:13 AM
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36. I personally would like to thank rich assholes of NYC for treating Fitz
shabbily if that's part of the reason he's motivated to deliver justice for the victims of this administration.

And, hey, isn't that Karma for you if you're a rich asshole in NYC depending on the Bush administration to keep you on top.
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 02:35 AM
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37. VERY impressive...
the more I learn about Fitz, the more I respect him. Indicted bin Laden, cleaning up Chicago - this case is THE big one. He seems to be very grounded in reality, unlike those he's investigating. From this article I can tell, he's inside their minds.:)
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vickie Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:55 AM
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40. The more I learn about this guy, the more I like him.
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 09:37 AM
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45. Here he is
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 09:54 AM
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46. Hmm, Either Kurt Russell or Tom Hanks For the Movie
n/t
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:35 PM
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52. he reminds me of Calvin Trillin,
who's one of my favorite people.

Their eyes are very similar but Calvin's are sparklier--you can just tell he's a funny guy--and Fitz's are no-nonsense. Which is exactly what I like about them.

Love them both!
:loveya:
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mohinoaklawnillinois Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 11:59 AM
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48. Pat Fitzgerald is a first generation Irish American, who as we say
Edited on Fri Oct-21-05 12:18 PM by mohinoaklawnillinois
in Chicago, "never forgot where he came from".

I know quite a few people who are just like him. Intelligent, hard working, great sense of humor and very, very successful.

Keep up the good work Pat and up Clare!!!
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 12:21 PM
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49. Fitzgerald is my kind of guy!
He has seen the attitudes of rich snobs therefore, he will never be like them. Imo, that's how Democrats are. I know he says he's Independent but I'll bet he's more democratic than repuke!
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