The son of a doorman and the son of a president - an American story

[Stinky The Clown]

I'm just saying ....... maybe America and that American dream is still an opertative concept, even with the efforts to gut and behead it.

[unpossibles]

1. I don't get it. n/t

[Sick_of_Rethuggery]

2. Fitzgerald is the son of a door man...

and Bush well, is the son of a President ;-)

[unpossibles]

5. thanks!

I just read that about Fitzpatrick right after I wrote that.

I assumed the other was Dimson, but was confused about the doorman. I was wondering if it could be some sort of "aspens turning" code-speak or something. Maybe I'm just tired....

[ClassWarrior]

3. The American Dream?? You don't get the American Dream??

That the citizens are the leaders, and the leaders have to follow the citizens?

NGU.

[unpossibles]

4. oh that one.

I thought you meant the BS one about mobility through the classes and how every president has risen himself up from the mire of banality by his own bootstraps. You know; the common American Myth.

[ClassWarrior]

6. I didn't mean anything. I was just clarifying...

...what I took SparklyMan to be saying.

NGU.

[unpossibles]

7. cool.

thanks!

Please don't take my smartmouth attitude personally.

I do wish we could become a true democracy where we are represented instead of corporate interests.

[erpowers]

11. Bill Clinton

What about Bill Clinton? It looks like he pulled himself from his bootstraps and made something of himself. I realize that many of the people who are rich today are that way because of their parents, but it seems like the idea of mobility can happen.

[Booster]

8. If Fitsgerald pulls this off it just might restore integrity to the U.S.

If it fizzles and dies, the rest of the world will see us for what we have become, and that's butt-ugly.

[Stinky The Clown]

9. Butt ugly, indeed.

You're very right.

I'm not sure this is the last 'last chance' ....... but it might be.

I perosnally take hope from what we're watching. What is apparantly a truly good 'good man' is doing what he's supposed to do. He's been methodical and maddengly slow, it might seem to some of us (me included) but he's doing it.

The description of him as a latter day Elliot Ness may well be apt.

[abluelady]

10. Still would mean sons born in 2005

I think the American Dream has died. It probably died for people born after 1970, in my opinion.

[zann725]

12. That IS ironic...Fitz's dad LITERALLY 'opened doors'...made it easier for

those of Power to "enter" theirprivileged inner sanctum.

Now Fitz stands arms crossed in front of that door, delaying... blocking their entry by a series of laws the "privileged" created...certainly NOT to prosecute themselves.

Karma. Isn't it ironic...