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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 12:09 AM
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Moore (*'s Brain) says Plame outing & Franklin (AIPAC) spy case connected
Edited on Fri Oct-21-05 12:31 AM by Wordie
The author of the article, Jim Moore (he wrote Bush's Brain about Karl Rove) thinks there may be a very big connection between the two.

This article may finally hold the key to the entire convoluted mess of Treasongate. All the seemingly disparate pieces seem to fall into place after reading this article. And, it would explain why Miller's reports of what she said to the grand jury seemed to leave so many unanswered questions (that she claims she "forgot" about)...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jim-moore/the-most-important-crimin_b_9183.html
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... Fitzgerald has reportedly asked for a copy of the Italian government’s investigation into the break-in of the Niger embassy in Rome and the source of the forged documents. The blatantly fake papers, which purported to show that Saddam Hussein had cut a deal to get yellowcake uranium from Niger, turned up after a December 2001 meeting in Rome involving neo-con Michael Ledeen, Larry Franklin, Harold Rhodes, and Niccolo Pollari, the head of Italy’s intelligence agency SISMI, and Antonio Martino, the Italian defense minister.

If Fitzgerald is examining the possibility that Ledeen was executing a plan to help his friend Karl Rove build a case for invading Iraq? Ledeen has long ties to Italian intelligence agency operatives and has spanned the globe to bring the world the constant variety of what he calls “creative destruction” to build democracies. He makes the other neo-cons appear passive. He brought the Reagan administration together with the Iranian arms dealer who dragged the country through Iran-Contra and shares with his close friend Karl Rove a personal obsession with Machiavelli. Ledeen, who is almost rabidly anti-Arab, famously told the Washington Post that Karl Rove told him, “Any time you have a good idea, tell me.”

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Patrick Fitzgerald has before him the most important criminal case in American history. Watergate, by comparison, was a random burglary in an age of innocence. The investigator’s prosecutorial authority in this present case is not constrained by any regulation. If he finds a thread connecting the leak to something greater, Fitzgerald has the legal power to follow it to the web in search of the spider. It seems unlikely, then, that he would simply go after the leakers and the people who sought to cover up the leak when it was merely a secondary consequence of the much greater crime of forging evidence to foment war. Fitzgerald did not earn his reputation as an Irish alligator by going after the little guy. Presumably, he is trying to find evidence that Karl Rove launched a covert operation to create the forged documents and then conspired to out Valerie Plame when he learned the fraud was being uncovered by Plame’s husband, Ambassador Joseph Wilson. As much as this sounds like the plot of a John le Carre novel, it also comports with the profile of the Karl Rove I have known, watched, traveled with and written about for the past 25 years.

We may stand witness to a definitive American moment of democracy. The son of a New York doorman probably has in his hands, in many ways, the fate of the republic. Because far too many of us know and are aware of the crimes committed by our government in our name, we are unlikely to settle for a handful of minor indictments of bureaucrats. The last thing most of us believe in is the rule of law. We do not trust our government or the people we have elected but our constitution is still very much alive and we choose to believe that destiny has placed Patrick Fitzgerald at this time and this place in our history to save us from the people we elected. If the law cannot get to the truth of what has happened to the American people under the Bush administration, then we all may begin to hear the early death rattles of history’s greatest democracy.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 12:22 AM
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1. I will die laughing at the spin!
Edited on Fri Oct-21-05 12:23 AM by ingac70
I won't be able to contain myself if I have to listen to RW spin about how much worse a blow job is than TREASON!
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 12:34 AM
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3. Moore thinks the implications of this are far bigger than Watergate!
So, if this is accurate, you'll have the last laugh as far as your RW friends are concerned.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 12:32 AM
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2. Check out Justin Raimondo at antiwar.com
he's thinking similar thoughts.

<http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=7717>
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 12:53 AM
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4. Whew!!! Finally, this is all starting to make sense!
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EuroObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 02:53 AM
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5. kicked & recommended
Edited on Fri Oct-21-05 02:56 AM by EuroObserver
"The son of a New York doorman probably has in his hands, in many ways, the fate of the republic."

Still one of the few countries in the world that can pull off this kind of stuff...

Respect.
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:15 PM
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12. Thanks...now even msm (Hardball) is discussing "broader" scope of
the Fitzgerald investigation and the Italian forged Niger documents angle. It is AMAZING!
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Dangerously Amused Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 03:06 AM
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6. Thanks for the link.


I have been looking for more information on the forgeries, this article wove everything together nicely.

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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 02:48 PM
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8. That was my sense too...seemingly unrelated pieces just falling together.
Edited on Fri Oct-21-05 02:48 PM by Wordie
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 09:53 AM
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7. A great article...lays it out very clearly. Wonder if this is why that
Italian agent was blown away in Iraq. Was he about to spill his guts?
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 03:25 PM
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10. Do you have a link to that? eom
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newscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 02:55 PM
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9. I'm glad that more and more people are finally puttin this in print
I was thinking maybe I had joined the tin foil brigade.

:tinfoilhat:
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:28 PM
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11. I think this just must be too scary for a lot of people. Too big.
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