Well, proof positive that Donna Brazile is not one of us. I really

[peacetalksforall]

don't want to start 'another' thread about her, but if anyone has any remaining doubts about someone who is posing as a Democrat - watch a re-run of C-Span Wash Journal from this morning, if you didn't hear her. Perhaps it is a coincidence, but in talking about what she is doing and other subjects, it is very obvious that she has surrounded herself with Republicans.

The first thing we learned that she is a good friend of Karl ROve - from before the time she went to work for Gore. I didn't know that.

I suppose I should admire someone who embraces all politicians. The way I score it, the Republican Party declared war on Americans - anyone poor, nearly all minorities (anyone who isn't Asian - they get a pass), anyone not born again, anyone not loyal to George, anyone who tries to attend a tax paid political function of George or Dick, but especially Moslems, anyone who expects us to protect our natural resources and reserved parks, anyone who believes that the world is melting. The Repbulican Party divided the nation and families.

Donna - we'll be watching you as you push the Republican agenda and your Republican friends as you pretend to work for the DLC or whatever.

Sorry about your family.

[bluedog]

1. thought the same thing

tried calling in and was going to tell her..thanks for losing the 2000 election........I personally think she helped bush win and she does not belong in our party.......as she is a "friend" of roves...

she is no friend to me.....she has way too much praise for the GOP party and the statements she made today are the proof.....that her loyalty lies with this Bush gang of corruption!

[European Socialist]

2. "lets work together"= repuke lite=ruling class agenda.

[zanne]

3. When Republicans know they're beat, they say.....

"let's work together and end the partisan bickering"

[Laura PourMeADrink]

4. Amen. I sent this email to them,

of course they didn't read it...


Ms. Brazile:


I am sorry for the hardships you and others are enduring in the Gulf Coast, but I have a question about politics.

When you appear on news talk programs as a "Democrat Strategist", does someone in the Democratic Party leadership approve this? I have heard you speak many times, and you tend to side more with the administration's flawed policies and you do not seem to be prepared to present our case very well. What do you say about Clifford May's comments this morning that you are pretty much "one of them"?

[...of J.Temperance]

5. Donna helped Senator Landrieu and Governor Blanco both win

Donna was a very important part of the GOTV campaign. She's also worked for decades for the benefit of the Louisiana Democratic Party.

So what if she's friend's with fuckhead Rove. James Carville is married to Mary Matalin...and when he ran President Clinton's campaign in 1992, she was running Poppy's campaign.

If Donna is okay with Senator Landrieu and Governor Blanco, then I think she should be cut some slack.

She could be spying on the Pukes and then telling what she knows back to us for all we know.

And President Gore won, so Donna did run a WINNING campaign in 2000, it's not HER fault that David Boies fucked it up by NOT requesting a FULL hand recount STATEWIDE like he should have...no HE messed it up by just asking for a hand recount in a tiny amount of Counties.

The one strategist that should just go away is Bob Shrum, who is a DISASTER to EVERY campaign he even goes NEAR.

[papau]

7. I agree :-)

:-)

[...of J.Temperance]

9. Thanks

:)

At least I'm not in a minority of one.

[karynnj]

12. But Brazille was constantly whining about Kerry

She was enough of an insider that I would assume she could get him on the phone. Maybe if she would have helped rather than hindered Shrum would have done better. (When was the last time that a previous Republican campaign manager attacted the current Republican candidate?

[...of J.Temperance]

13. Read up on Shrum and every campaign he's worked on

The man is...radioactive, I can't think of any other adequate word to describe him. He constantly gives terrible advice.

Donna probably would have suggested that Senator Kerry go scorched earth, and he WAS justified to do that, especially regarding the Swift Boat bastards and the Purple Heart thing at the Neo-Nazi's convention. Considering Senator Kerry just did nothing about those things, what could Donna have done? If that would have been me and those Swift Boat pigs would have said the lies they did about me, I'd have ripped their guts wide open and right about NOW I'd have a defamation of character lawsuit all over their sorry asses.

Who's the current Republican candidate? Rove is the previous Republican campaign manager I think...?

On edit: Our two BEST strategists are and always were Donna Brazile and James Carville. The latter's campaigns in 1992 and 1996 were the BEST run campaigns since LBJ's in 1964...full-on, cannon loaded, seat-of-pants kickers.

[karynnj]

16. Donna was complaining about many other things

but to my knowledge not the SBVT. Kerry had fought them off twice before - the offical records agreed with Kerry's account and he found more eye witnesses who also were in concurrance with the records and Kerry. It's also not clear that Kerry going after them more would have helped. McCain's going ballistic worked against him.

Kerry took the way he was most comfortable with - building an unimpeachable case and the facts were on his side. The media, that jumped on minor problems in the Bush Tang story to bury it and Rather and his team, IGNORED the 100+ pages of Navy records, accounts of people known to be there backing Kerry - and MANY PROVABLE LIES (people saying they saw things when they were provably not there and continued showing it as a he said, he said story.

Even recently, Kerry let all his files be released to the Boston Globe and 2 other papers, news accounts STILL quoted O'Neil sayiung there are other records. Aside from the likelihood that the whole sign the 180 was likely a fishing expedition hoping that in almost 4 years in the Navy Kerry did something that would embarrass him, the release isn't even reported at face value. I seriously doubt there is anything Kerry could have done then (or now) that would have caused the media to say there is nothing to these charges.

It goes beyond presumption of guilt to disregarding any reasonable proof that things are not true.

[...of J.Temperance]

21. I ALWAYS believed Senator Kerry

And I ALWAYS knew it was those freaks that were lying. But we cannot rely on the media, they're NOT our friends and sadly, we cannot rely on JUST having the facts, because the media just COMPLETELY ignore OUR facts because our FACTS get in the way of their LYING GOP Memos.

Therefore, sometimes we NEED to take another route and get wound up and go ballistic and crush balls and scorch the earth and call them FUCKING liars and NOT let up for ONE day...Senator Edwards would have chewed the bastards up and spat them out I bet.

Senator Kerry needed to play hardball back, and for some reason he didn't and that was that.

On edit: Senator Landrieu's race against Suzanne Haik Terrell and EIGHT other Repukes. Senator Landrieu's a Rottweiler, she's GOT the killer instinct, she swatted aside EIGHT Repukes and then she chewed up and spat out Terrell and kicked her ass around the state...and Donna Brazile helped her to do it...and that's what Senator Kerry needed to do to the Bush bastard.

[Warren Stupidity]

6. She doesn't 'pretend to work for the DLC'

The DLC pretends to be working for Democratic Party principles and for the interests of working families in this country. It isn't and nor does she.

If we get tweedle-dum'd this time round it will be our own fault. That's their game and we should be wise to it by now.

[0007]

8. I'm still throwing up from what I heard from Donna this morning

She is absolutely disgusting. Her & Mary Madelin can go fuck themselves.

[bluedog]

10. Donna..Davis Bacon ring a "bell"

Donna Brazile is unimpressive, and now she is praising Bush? We don't need Democrats slobbering over Bush.

She should have said something like, " that was a nice speech, but we're going to judge him on what he does, not what he says.

Wonder if she knows that Halliburton got a no-bid contract ,....that "her" people are getting screwed by the Davis Bacon act....that undocumented workers are coming in and taking their jobs for lesser pay..........does she read or keep up with whats what?....or does she just "shrill" for the GOP party?
Donna can go to hell as far as I'm concerned!

[...of J.Temperance]

11. Of course Donna knows, she's not a bimbo you know

However, the Bush bastard is in charge of handing out the filthy lucre to Louisiana. So, unfortunately, now and then, they have to kiss up to him.

Trust me, they ALL hate the fucker. Their words mean NOTHING either.

On edit: I'm fully aware that defending Donna Brazile right now, I'm fully aware that this is making me incredibly unpopular. But you know, loyalty means A LOT to me and respect means A LOT to me and I feel I must stay loyal to Donna Brazile because I respect and I'm grateful for what she's done for the Louisiana Democratic Party over the years and for what she continues to do for the Party.

[0007]

18. You bet it does.

Donna is better than a shill for the GOP, she pretends to be one of us. And we wonder what's wrong with the party! Whew!!

[DancingBear]

14. Oh please - doesn't anyone remember her sickening NO Katrina "editorial"

The day after Bush gave his "nobody here but the church behind me" speech - the one where he promised 200 trillion million zillion dollars for New Orleans -Brazille wrote an op-ed for The Washington Post about how proud she was of George Bush, and how she was ready to work with him to get things done.

Donna Brazille is part and parcel of what is WRONG with the Democratic Party. She is the ultimate Beltway insider, and has nary a clue as to why we're in the mess we're in.

The sooner she leaves, the better.

[win_in_06]

15. She's a political operative and belongs to the frat of operatives

regardless of party affiliation.

Had Gore won in 2000 she would be one of the biggest heroines of the party. She probably would have been his Chief of Staff.

One of the near misses of history.

She has a lot of experience and can probably help any future candidate with her advice.

[...of J.Temperance]

17. I agree and thanks for stating what you just did n/t

[gulfcoastliberal]

19. OMG! You're starting a dem circular shooting squad! Divisiveness!

NO CRITICIZING ANY FIGURE OR POLITICIAN CLAIMING TO BE A DEM!

Jeez haven't you learned that by now? It's like a cardinal rule around here - no matter how much a dem sells out, it's not cool to criticize!

:sarcasm:

[...of J.Temperance]

23. I go by Donna's RECORD, NOT by whatever she says on TV n/t

[Tom Rinaldo]

20. We can discuss if she is one of "us", but she isn't one of "them"

And by "us" I mean Democrats who are progressive enough for you. But Brazile is absolutely not on the side of Republicans. I just do not buy into the Yes No binary reality you seem to be presenting. Bill Clinton has said a lot of nice things about Papa George and Junior too from time to time and it seems like he and Senior have hit it off of late. Bill Clinton is not a Republican. We can discuss whether or not he is progressive enough for you. As already noted James Carvelle married a Republican operative. He is not a Republican despite that, but he may not be progressive enough to be part of your "Us".

I have had correspondence with Donna Brazile. I know for a fact that she was busting her butt to get Kerry elected and also that she she felt early in his campaign that Kerry needed to be much stronger about saying what he believed in. She wrote a NY Times Op Ed piece about it at the time. I agreed with her position then, and I think most DUers did also. I'm not saying for sure that Brazile had any major part in it, but Kerry did sharpen his attacks on Bush after that. Donna Brazile also was one of the stronger voices inside the DNC fighting for a stronger stance against voter fraud. We corresponded about that. She was operating as a team player inside the DNC, which means that what she said in public had to represent the company line, but she was acting in private to strengthen the company line. I am confident about that. I know she was working with members of the Black Congressional caucus and with Jessie Jackson in the wake of what happened in Ohio.

I did not hear Brazil's comments today so I am not defending them per se. I don't agree with many things many National Democrats say or do, but that doesn't mean I call them Republicans.

[bluedog]

22. catch the repeat.if they show it again

nothing but a love fest

[bluedog]

24. from roll call (she thinks we are spinners)??

The DeLay Indictment, and How Democrats Should Respond
By Donna Brazile

October 3, 2005
......... my inbox was jammed last week with updated “talking points”

(that is, spin)

provided by an array of Democratic leaders and activists highlighting the GOP’s “culture of corruption.”

You really can’t blame Democrats for browbeating Republican leaders to end cronyism and to reform the system.

If the shoe were on the other foot, you can bet that Rep. Tom DeLay (R-Texas) would be attacking Democrats from coast to coast.



what do you think she means.....her e-mails...are from us the people and yet she thinks we are the "spinners?

http://www.rollcall.com/pub/brazile/

[...of J.Temperance]

26. We need to be CAREFUL, because IF Delay DOESN'T go to jail

Then he's going to be 1000 times MORE vicious and petty and vindictive. So, I think it's sensible for us not to count our chickens before they hatch...because unless the pig goes to jail, he's going to make life a LIVING Hell on earth for our people in Congress and EVERY single one of their constituencies.

[...of J.Temperance]

25. She's on Governor Blanco's "Rebuild Louisiana" commission

Or whatever it's called. Therefore Donna needs to suck up now and then, because Louisiana needs the money and the money is handed out from DC by Congress which is in the CONTROL of the Repukes.

And THAT'S the way I see it. I don't like it, the Donna Brazile's don't like it, Governor Blanco doesn't like it, Senator Landrieu doesn't like it...but those are the facts and that's the way it is.

[MaineDem]

27. Howard Dean thought enough of her to reappoint her to the DNC

Could Howard be part of the conspiracy?

:eyes: