Raimondo on the Larry Franklin-Plame connection (w/Judy Miller, too)

[Wordie]

Justin Raimondo sees the AIPAC spy scandal (Franklin) and the Treasongate Plame outing as related, maybe through Judy Miller. This stuff is UNBELIEVABLE!

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=7717
October 21, 2005
Was Plame Outed by a Foreign Spy?
The Larry Franklin-Plame connection

by Justin Raimondo

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For a good many years, I have been writing about the tremendous influence of the neoconservatives in formulating and implementing U.S. foreign policy, and maintaining that their role has not just been important – it has been decisive. For underscoring the neocons' pivotal role – since before the Kosovo war – I have been called a lot of uncomplimentary names, the least of which is "conspiracy theorist," and for a while there Antiwar.com's insistence on emphasizing this theme tended to isolate us from antiwar leftists, as well as alienating the more "mainstream" types who doubted whether such an abstruse ideological movement could possibly wield the sort of clout I was describing.

<snip>
The Israeli penetration of our national security has been put in the spotlight, lately, by the indictment – and guilty plea – of former Pentagon analyst Larry Franklin on charges of spying for Israel. During his tenure as the Pentagon's top Iran specialist, when he worked for Doug Feith, Franklin was caught red-handed funneling highly classified information to Steve Rosen, AIPAC's chief lobbyist, and Keith Weissman, AIPAC's top foreign policy analyst, who then passed the stolen secrets on to the Israeli embassy. The interconnectedness of the investigation into AIPAC's treason with Fitzgerald's probe is underscored by the following passage from Franklin's indictment:

"On or about June 3, 2003, Franklin met with FO-3 at the POAC , and the discussion centered on a specific person, not in the United Status government, and her thoughts concerning the nuclear program of the Middle Eastern country and, separately, certain charity, efforts in Foreign Nation A."

If Franklin and his Israeli handler – a nuclear weapons specialist – were talking about a woman whose "thoughts concerning the nuclear program" of a certain "Middle Eastern country" had some significance, then surely Judith Miller is a likely candidate. When we add in the business about "certain charity efforts in Foreign Nation A," the identification becomes even more credible: "Foreign Nation A" is Israel, the "charity efforts" consist of work on behalf of the Iraqi Jewish Archive, a joint project undertaken by Miller, Harold Rhode (Franklin's associate – and fellow suspect – in Feith's policy shop), and Ahmed Chalabi. It might be said that these efforts on behalf of the Archive are not taking place "in Israel," as the wording of the indictment puts it, but the ultimate location of the archives is uncertain, and surely Israel is one very possible destination. In any case, it can safely be said that this is a project undertaken on Israel's behalf.

[Wordie]

1. What? You guys all don't like Raimundo? Too tin-hat? What?

[Village Idiot]

2. A pretty interesting article, all around...

I wouldn't have made the connection, but seeing that Franklin worked for Feith, Perle and Wurmser, it all seems a little less like "tinfoil hat" stuff, and a LOT more like "business as usual" for the neocon CABAL...

[Wordie]

5. Yep...and Jim Moore (Bush's Brain) is making the same connection...

Kinda makes it more believeable.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jim-moore/the-most-important-crimin_b_9183.html

Raimundo also said this:
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For a good many years, I have been writing about the tremendous influence of the neoconservatives in formulating and implementing U.S. foreign policy, and maintaining that their role has not just been important – it has been decisive. For underscoring the neocons' pivotal role – since before the Kosovo war – I have been called a lot of uncomplimentary names, the least of which is "conspiracy theorist," and for a while there Antiwar.com's insistence on emphasizing this theme tended to isolate us from antiwar leftists, as well as alienating the more "mainstream" types who doubted whether such an abstruse ideological movement could possibly wield the sort of clout I was describing.

No more. Now the lefties over at, say, DailyKos.com, are hip to the magnitude of the threat and are busy poring over old PNAC position papers <.pdf> looking for clues to our present predicament. Even the word neocon, once all but unrecognizable to the great majority of readers, is now firmly embedded in the American political lexicon – even as the consequences of their policies exact an ever increasing toll. Yet still there are some doubters: how could such a small group of people exercise such power – especially considering that they aren't exactly a mass movement. Someone once quipped that there are only about 20 or so neocons – but 18 of them are major newspaper columnists. Yet there is more to it than that, and now that Scooter-gate is unfolding before the astonished eyes of official Washington, the neocons' ubiquity in the mid-to-upper levels of the U.S. government's national security and foreign policy bureaucracy is all too obvious. General Anthony Zinni was one of the first to call attention to the dangers inherent in the neocons' foreign policy specialization, and now we have another major senior figure in the Washington policy establishment coming forward to confirm, in no uncertain terms, the nature and extent of the problem.

[d59cy6]

3. Raimondo was Buchanan's campaign manager

No kidding. Raimondo is a strange strange guy. He was Pat Buchanan's campaign manager (back in '92 I think) when he was his most virulently anti-gay. Raimondo is openly gay.

On the other hand, Raimondo has some great rants against Andrew Sullivan.

[newyawker99]

4. Hi d59cy6!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Wordie]

6. Raimondo's an iconoclast's iconoclast, but article makes a LOT of sense.

I disagree with him intensely about some things he has written, but this time he seems to pull it all together...his take seems to answer all those unanswered questions (or at least a lot of them).

[Wordie]

7. Kick for Saturday crew...and please let me know any objections to Raimondo

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[Wordie]

9. Its time we separated any questioning of Israeli policy, actions and goals

and of those who support these things, from anti-semitism. We need to be able to discuss political things that affect us and how these things are intertwined with American policies.

Who is it that will not allow this to happen? OR, is it that when one does try to discuss these issues there are people who perhaps ARE anti-semitic that get in the middle of the conversation and then the entire thing just falls apart?

I think there needs to be a new openness to these sorts of discussions. And only the truly antisemitic people should be removed from the discussion, not those who simply question Israeli policies. I'm not referring to DU here, but I've tried to post about these issues elsewhere, and it's a big problem.

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[Wordie]

11. That's just the kind of post that seems to drown out any real discussion.

Do you deny the existance of the neoconservatives? Or their dominance of American foreign policy? Could it be that there might be some positive bias toward Israel that is worth discussing?

When you just turn it into a joke...on the person raising the issue, no information gets exchanged, and nothing changes.

[Coastie for Truth]

12. You should really dig a little bit deeper

The issue is
OIL
and PNAC is obsessed about oil -- and their corporated mouthpiece, APIPAC - American Petroleum Institute Political Action Committee is the lobbying arm of the
OIL INDUSTRY.

I've done the research for you--

1. Influence of “Big Oil” on “Junk Science” and “Kyoto” and “Global Warming”

We’re up to Tropical Storm Alpha and APIPAC says Global Warming is “Junk Science” and has no effect on tropical storms
* – Link to “talking points”
* – Revolving Door for APIPAC Lobbyists

2.

3. – The Iraq War is PNAC’s American Blood for Iraqi War

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And if you want to go to “Original Sources” here is a link to and to their , and to . I would most certainly recommend the PNAC Home Page to you. Download and read some of their studies – once you get past William Kristol’s mental masturbation and mindless drivel – you will see that PNAC is about one thing – OIL, and more particularly America’s control of the spigot.


I am in the "Industry" - the clean energy, renewable energy, alternative energy side of the energy industry --- it is my business to know APIPAC.

[Lithos]

13. Locking

Justin Raimondo and Anti-War.com are not considered acceptable sources for use on DU.

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