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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:02 PM
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If the Democrats win both Houses of Congress what is the order of business
If we control the House and Senate in 2006 and deal a politcal blow to Bush, how can we repair the country in 2007? Bush will still be able to veto bills (even if we have majorities they will be narrow enough to have a fractured coalition) and if another terrorist attack happens (God Forbid) then they will be just as toothless as the Democratic-controlled Senate from 2001-2002 that voted for the Iraq War and No Child Left Behind. However, among the things we can do are Investigate are the DSM, another 9/11 Investigation, overturn the Bankrupcy Bill and CAFTA, and keep Bush Supreme Court Justice Nominees in committee (they won't be able to use the "Democrats are just an angry minority using the power of the filibuster to prevent Bush from appointing justices, because we will have the majority support from the American people) Another problem involves relations with the blogosphere. One of the reasons why the blogosphere and Liberal Activism online in general did not materialize until 2001 was because Left Activists often had a strained relationship with Clinton and the Republican grassroots was not in power and able to take advantage of resentment.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:04 PM
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1. A congressional investigation of the abuse of power.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:17 PM
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6. I'd say they had a mandate to launch immediate investigations.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:09 PM
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2. Have a Congressperson from a state with a Democratic
Edited on Fri Oct-21-05 05:09 PM by rzemanfl
Governor resign. John Kerry moves there and is appointed to the House, then he is elected Speaker of the House. Then Bush and Cheney are impeached, Kerry becomes President and appoints Al Gore as Vice-President. Kerry gets re-elected twice then Gore gets re-elected twice and viola, 18 years of sanity in the White House. I say Kerry rather than Gore only because he is older.
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phiddle Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:14 PM
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4. My, you're devious! (Nice Move)
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:30 PM
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16. This would work and is much less messy than a revolution.
At least half the people in the country would be saying "Thank God!" and "it's about time" when it happened.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:15 PM
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5. We don't want no woman to be president!!
Edited on Fri Oct-21-05 05:15 PM by longship
The office of president is a *man's* position11111!!!
:evilgrin:
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:17 PM
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7. The point of the excersise is to put the people who were screwed
out of the office in it, not to be sexist.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:20 PM
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8. I added :evilgrin: to make sure that you understood it was sarcasm.
Sorry if you took it to heart.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:24 PM
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13. No problem. I see this as the only non-violent way to restore
democracy to the country. The alternative is a military junta.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:36 PM
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19. I'd just like to see a Constitutional solution.
Edited on Fri Oct-21-05 05:37 PM by longship
What's worrisome is the prospect of constitutional crises. Pardons. Firings. Other, more scary, things. I just want the Democrats to sieze this opportunity to lead the country back from the brink. The Democrats need a leader right now and we do not have one.

The closest I can see is Al Gore and the CBC people. They say all the right things, but they are not saying them to enough people.

Who will jump into the leadership role? We're anxiously waiting.
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:37 PM
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20. An American version of Pinochet's junta would be worse than Bush
At least with Bush we have democratic means to get rid of him. I don't care if the military junta began implementing universal healthcare, I still would not support anyone subverting democracy
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:44 PM
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23. I was too short in my response. What I am suggesting is that the
military will not continue to be sent on fool's errands by those fools until 2009 without deciding they could do it better without them. The outcome of that would be unlikely to be anything any of us would like.

I can't see a people's revolution happening in this country, can you?
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LVdem Donating Member (375 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:30 PM
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17. That's good!!! nt
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:34 PM
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18. Believe in it, promote it. The country cannot be in the hands of
BushCo until 2009, it's this, revolution or a military coup. I prefer that the Constitution be followed and this does, 100%.
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phiddle Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:13 PM
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3. My wish list in order:
1. Campaign finance and lobbying reform
2. Strong voting rights measures including mandatory voter-verified paper ballots.
3. Redistribution of the tax burden upward; elimination of the caps on FICA and the capital gains differential.
4. Investigate the sewer of Republicanism
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freethought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 11:30 PM
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26. Mind if I add two or three?
1) Universal Health Care
2) Media Reform
3) A long term Energy Research effort.
4) Withdrawl from Iraq.

Okay, that's four. You get the idea though.
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phiddle Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 08:12 AM
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29. By all means!
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MarkusQ Donating Member (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:21 PM
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9. They say charity begins at home
And if I recall correctly, impeachment has to come from the house. So I'd start there.

--MarkusQ

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Leftest Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:22 PM
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10. I'd say
For starters:

    - Congressional investigation into high crimes and corruption
    - A resolution to bring the troops home now
    - Conduct immediate hearings of all detainees to determine the status of each
    - Attach to the next defense spending bill, a repeal of the new bankruptcy law & CAFTA
    - Submit articles of impeachment
    - Re-regulate the news media
    - Replace the environmental laws back to where they were
    - Place a CAP on gas and oil prices
    - Spend some money on some real R&D for bio fuels and hydrogen
    - Tax the shit out of the greedy rich sons of bitches who have been in bed with the Bushes and neo-cons




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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 10:06 AM
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35. curious as to your proposal to regulate media and the environmental laws
can you elaborate?
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gademocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:22 PM
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11. We need to try and reduce the deficit
repeal The Patriot Act and all tax cuts for the top 1%.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:22 PM
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12. Won't happen in 06
May as well stop speculating.

GOP has a lock on the House of Reps and will probably retain a 2 vote majority in the Senate.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:27 PM
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14. Even in gerrymandered Districts sitting in a cold house all Winter
worrying about money can change a person's attitude.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:43 PM
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22. You're too optimistic about how that translates
The GOP has successfully painted the Dems as do nothing, which is an effective counterweight to themselves as do-wrong.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:46 PM
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24. Guess I'd best get some helium and plastic bags. n/t
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:28 PM
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15. Let the world breath easier again. n/t
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:39 PM
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21. I won't expect much
just a slight tempering of the GOP's bullshit. But I've become a cynic.
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Johnny Noshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 08:51 PM
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25. Okay off the wall scenario
We take back the House and Senate. The Chimp and Darth Cheney are impeached and found guilty and are out. President Pelosi appoints John Kerry as VP. She resigns and Kerry is President and appoints Edwards as VP and we have what we should've had in '04. Now I did say off the wall :evilgrin:

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corporatemedia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 12:24 AM
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27. 1) BEER 2)MORE BEER 3)GO TO STEP 1 eom
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 12:44 AM
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28. Repeal PATRIOT, bring the troops home at once!
Everything begins with dismantling the Bush police state and ending Bush's wars.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 08:18 AM
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30. Instant repeal of tax break fo the 2%ers, remove secrecy act
What, you don't think these fuckers have a new secrecy act in place beyond the Patriot Act?? Then gut everything passed by these douche bags including ANWAR and the stupid throwaway gun registrations.

After that I will be at peace with the world for a moment.
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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 08:19 AM
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31. won't be able to overturn CAFTA or Bankruptcy
that would require legislation and Bush could just veto that too.

however, Democrats would control the committees and be able to hold a hearings on a variety of issues.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 08:29 AM
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32. We can override his vetos, make no mistake about it
With control comes control. There are enough moderate RINOs to help with that.
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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 10:01 AM
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34. of course
Edited on Sat Oct-22-05 10:02 AM by Bacchus39
if you get enough RINOs or otherwise that adds up to 2/3 a veto would be overriden. I just don't see it happening especially with such non-exciting issues as CAFTA.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 08:34 AM
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33. Reverse everything the Republicans have enacted since 1980
and keep going.

The problems go back a lot farther than Bush.
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