No one has said it yet....

[catnhatnh]

...but how far away can desperation and violence be???This is neither a threat nor a plan,but how long before someone who has played "American Citizen" by the rules realizes they have been hosed and decides on "direct action"?I've sat for the last several years and waited to see a CEO or bankruptcy judge targeted...Next year after Granny has frozen or Grandpa dies for lack of 50$ worth of drugs do you doubt class warfare is next? We are spooky close to pitchfork and torches time and I for one would not be appalled..

[carolinalady]

1. And I bet the first one to use that pitchfork is a Freeper. n/t

[catnhatnh]

4. Well Yeah....

...if you drink the Koolaid and THEN find it was MEANT to kill you, you are likely to become bitter...

[Generarth]

9. Theres a guy over there Nothingnew is his name

posts everytime with

FMDCH (BITS)

which is From my dead cold hands (blood in the streets)

but of course he's a strawman.........

[Atman]

2. Actually, someone quite important has said it...

Wilkerson: {W}e have courted disaster, in Iraq, in North Korea, in Iran, generally with regard to domestic crises like Katrina… we haven’t done very well on anything like that in a long time. And if something comes along that is truly serious, truly serious, something like a nuclear weapon going off in a major American city {"Reckless Indifference to the Nightmare Scenario"} , or something like a major pandemic, you are going to see the ineptitude of this government in a way that will take you back to the Declaration of Independence. Read it some time again. ... Read in there what they say about the necessity of people to {inaudible - background voice} tyranny or to throw off ineptitude or to throw off that which is not doing what the people want it to do.

And you’re talking about the potential for, I think, real dangerous times if we don’t get our act together.

Full the transcript of Wilkerson's remarks:
http://news.ft.com/cms/s/c925a686-40f4-11da-b3f9-00000e2511c8.html

[Burried News]

3. Those who subvert democracy open us up violence.

The quiet revolution every four years has an underlying premis that the vote is fair and represents the will of the people. What you voice is - I think on alot of people's minds.

[liberal43110]

5. Not next year

I think we have longer than one year to wait until civil unrest occurs, but I think it will occur. As bad as things are, prevasive unrest and violence requires more suffering over a longer period of time. Make no mistake, I think we are headed in that direction. The policies that the Republican party has pursued are poisonous, and people will rise up. Right now, about half the population truly sees what the draconian policies of the right will bring--that's the key point--we see what they will bring. But the full effects of these policies haven't even been felt yet.

[jedr]

6. Few people in this country care about anything until;

it effects them. Have a trumped-up war that kills thousands of brown skinned people and we get magnetic ribbons on cars, but have gas hit $3 a gal. and all hell breaks loose. As the middle class starts to dissolve , the sh*t will hit the fan and how long can they blame Clinton? It ain't going to be pretty!

[raccoon]

14. I think most people are like that, regardless of where they live

or in what century. Most people don't get worked up about something until it's their ass that's in the fire, or about to go into it.

[ret5hd]

7. get lost.

[catnhatnh]

10. Except you....

...(see below post)...care to expound?

[ret5hd]

11. .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2173811

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2173795

so, how much time ya' going to spend here?

[catnhatnh]

12. I think there has been a misunderstanding...

are you implying that I posted BOTH your links?
Edit: for a spacing mistake

[catnhatnh]

8. ALL the above posters are correct....

I doubt the ruling junta has any idea of the anger to be spawned when the first posters "freeper" finds they really had no intention of appointing Christ vice president and were just kidding about overturning Roe vs Wade.For those of us frustrated to near frenzy on the left, the cause of whatever disturbed catharsis will be much more prosaic....

[Lone_Wolf]

13. IMO... I'm afraid that things would have to get even worse for most people

Whether by accident or design, our system provides for a minimum level of physiological and safety needs (i.e. comfort) to the Masses. As long as people have just enough food, shelter, clothing, and a minimal sense of safety they'll go on with life. It is simply Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs (http://chiron.valdosta.edu/whuitt/col/regsys/maslow.html)

The Elite who plan society know that if the Masses don't get their basic needs met, then they will try to acquire them on their own by whatever means necessary. That's when the "danger" of revolution occurs.

Interestingly, The Elite planers also know that if the masses have too much, they will empower the masses. In other words, the Masses become self-actualized which mean they'll start worrying about other things that the Elite don't want them to worry about. Things like Education, Environment, Foreign Policy, etc. This is another threat to the Elite.

This explains why the poor tend to worry more about getting their physiological needs met (social welfare programs) instead of issues like the environment, war, etc. Liberals who fall into the middle and upper classes tend to focus more on foreign policy, environment, etc.