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Mon Oct-24-05 05:31 AM
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Poll question: Which Indictment Would Hurt the Republicans the Most? |
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Edited on Mon Oct-24-05 05:32 AM by rpannier
Considering there are the potential for many Republicans to be indicted in different areas of the country, my questions is, "Which indictment would hurt the Republican Party the Most?" (not the White House -- The Party). I'm also not just talking about the Plame investigations -- I'm referring to all of them that focus on some major figure in the Republican Party. I'm also thinking long term. Something they would have a really hard time squirming out of.
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Mon Oct-24-05 05:39 AM
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1. While Rove's indictment would hurt more in the short term |
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Cheney's resignation, impeachment and/or imprisonment would hurt more in the long term, especially since it would throw Dubya into a state of childlike panic.
The boy would probably start sucking his thumb and wetting the bed again.
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Mon Oct-24-05 05:50 AM
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4. I would have voted for KKKarl but after consideration I too think Cheney |
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would be a bigger hit. KKKarl is the criminal behind the bu$h but Cheney is the criminal behind KKKarl.
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Mon Oct-24-05 08:22 AM
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19. They'll give KKKarl a consulting job. n/t |
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Mon Oct-24-05 05:45 AM
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2. Losing Cheney makes Bush vulnerable |
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Nobody seriously considered impeaching Nixon until Agnew was out of the picture.
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Mon Oct-24-05 06:07 AM
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9. This DOES resemble Watergate in many respects. |
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Let's see: with 3 years left in his second term, the Chimp is already under the magnifying glass. I forgot how Agnew was forced out first only worsening Nixon's base of support. I am thinking the war crime in Iraq will ultimately be the Chimp's undoing. The Plame case is only the first act.
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Mon Oct-24-05 06:52 AM
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Edited on Mon Oct-24-05 06:53 AM by Lochloosa
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Mon Oct-24-05 06:57 AM
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I think, if Cheney can be indicted for criminal conspiracy and obstruction of justice, it addresses hubris as a root cause. I do think that Agnew was not as smart as Dick, but both of them were arrogant, and careless. Dick is probably more evil. I so hope is is indicted.
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Mon Oct-24-05 05:47 AM
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3. Kkkarl or the great Election Robbery of 2000 !!! |
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Mon Oct-24-05 05:57 AM
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When he goes, the whole house of cards comes crashing down.
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Mon Oct-24-05 06:03 AM
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6. While Rove would hurt, it would do nothing really. |
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Even if Rove were -convicted-, he would still make deals and arrangements from whatever Club Fed prison he went to. Bush's Brain wold be farther away, but accessible.
Cheney, on the other hand... he holds an actual office. Plus, a Cheney Indictment would provoke a hard look at the relationship between Halliburton and this administration.
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Mon Oct-24-05 06:06 AM
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7. Libby is the main criminal... |
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and has caused the most damage..... yet he doesn't feature in the vote....
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Mon Oct-24-05 06:41 AM
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10. Libby is listed under Frist |
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Mon Oct-24-05 06:07 AM
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8. It would HAVE to be the Chimp himself... |
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While Captain Crotchsock is a figurehead, he doesn't realize he's a figurehead -- thus, with his power, he's even more dangerous than the people pulling his strings (without him knowing it).
Plus, he's a charismatic figure for the far-right, especially the religious right. Even for a lot of middle-of-the-roaders who don't like his policies, Dubya still wins points for being "a great guy" who they wouldn't mind hanging out with. His personality trumps his politics for a lot of voters.
If he had to resign, even if we were still stuck with Cheney, he wouldn't have the "good-old-boy-who-found-Jesus-and-wouldn't-dream-of-cheating-on-his-wife" aura about him that Bush had to make his policies more palatable. With Cheney in command, those already-unpopular policies would stand alone, particularly with a distinctly uncharismatic chief executive pushing them.
Plus, if you don't think that the first-ever indictment of a sitting president wouldn't be a blow that would take the Republicans years to recover from, you're dreaming.
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Mon Oct-24-05 06:59 AM
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13. Chimpy cannot/will not be indicted |
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Edited on Mon Oct-24-05 06:59 AM by onenote
The Office of Legal Counsel of the Justice Department has twice issued opinions, first in 1973 and again during the Clinton presidency, finding that a sitting president may not be indicted. There is no way Fitzgerald is going to disregard that opinion.
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Mon Oct-24-05 07:03 AM
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Since a sitting president can't be indicted, Bush is not in the mix right now. He'd have to be impeached and removed from office before he could be indicted. Otherwise, I think it's a toss-up between Rove and Cheney. They are actually the two halves of *'s brain. We've already seen how badly he's stumbling with them being distracted by the investigation. I expect it to get a lot worse if one or both of them are indicted. :D
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Mon Oct-24-05 07:44 AM
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16. All of these indictments will hurt... |
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Mon Oct-24-05 07:56 AM
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17. I think Karl would hurt the worst because it would severly |
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damage the confidence of MANY in the Party. Not only Shrub, but most of the higher up Pubs relied on his devious strategies to get them out of the many messes their own mouth's got them into.
Even efficient people are badly damaged, emotionally, when they lose what they perceive as their protector.
The other indictment that will be very damaging is Jack Abramoff. He's been the central source of a LOT of $$ for MANY< MANY Pubs for quite a few years! Without a central coordinator of the $$ sources, the whole Party is damaged.
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Mon Oct-24-05 07:58 AM
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18. Gotta go with Uncle Dick on this one |
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Sure we all know that KKKarl is the Chimp's brain, but that's not acknowledged in public within the GOP, and the sheeple certainly don't admit to it.
Cheney on the other hand, is well known as the most powerful Veep in history. Even those delusional enough to believe the Chimp is actually the president know that Dick is above and beyond anyone who has ever sat in that desk, in terms of influence.
So however Agnew's resignation hurt Nixon, multiply that by 10 (at least) should Uncle Dick be forced out.
We may be seeing a preview of this already. I've heard rumors that Andy Card has been running the White House lately, with KKKarl & Dick sidelined. We have all seen the results. The Bush Criminal Empire is in a downward spiral and it ain't even Fitzmas yet.
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Mon Oct-24-05 08:56 AM
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20. I nominate John Bolton |
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For a couple of reasons I think an indictment of John Bolton hurts the Republicans most mainly because it would tie directly to Republican Senators who failed to not only listen to Democarts concerns over information that the administration deliberately denied them in his confirmation hearings but also failed in not being outspoken when Bush recessed appointed him.
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Mon Oct-24-05 09:41 AM
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21. Man! This is like a smorgasbord of your favorite foods! |
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It's difficult to pick just one!
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