So if it turns out that there are only a couple of indictments

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How long is it going to take before the first threads appear on DU claiming that Fitz (a) was bought off and/or was always on the take; (b) was threatened; (c) has some secret plan; or (d) all of the above.

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[Kittycat]

1. I'm hoping the indictments are high up, and...

That the only reason there aren't more, is because of those that chose to cooperate in leiu of indictment. From what I've read of Fitz, is that he likes having a solid case. Just because there may not be indictments on some now - doesn't mean that there won't be more in future fallouts.

[BL611]

2. Has it been confirmed

that there are only a couple of indictments??? I wouldn't take a blurb on raw story as the final word...

[Demobrat]

3. Two weeks ago

a couple of indictments would have been manna from heaven. If Fitz doesn't indict he doesn't have a case. End of story.

[CoffeeCat]

4. I will trust whatever conclusion he reaches...

...because I believe he is a righteous, decent professional and a decent American who is on the side of justice.

If he can't indict someone, it means that he didn't have the conclusive evidence to do so.

I'm sure he understands that they're all scummy thugs. The question is...how do you prove that Cheney knew or that Bush knew?

My sense is that this is why Fitzgerald's investigation took so long. He dug deep. He worked very diligently on this case and attempted to find as much proof as possible.

I am very, very optimistic. I seriously doubt this is just about Libby, Miller, Rove and only perjury. This is about the run-up to the Iraq war--and the dirty tricks used to squelch dissent and propagate the efforts of the WHIG public-relations campaign, which used lies to market a war. Plame was one example of this administration playing dirty to hide the truth, get their war and further their PNAC agenda.

I'm confident that Fitz turned over the rock that is Plame, and found lots and lots of really bad stuff. That's why it took two years.
That's why there's been so much secrecy.

[longship]

5. Why would you believe leaks from the Repug lawyers?

Fitz and his staff are not saying one single word about the case. The grand jury is sworn to secrecy as well. The proceedings of the gj are under seal.

So the only information we have is coming from people whose interest it is to minimize the impact. So why should we believe anything we here from "sources close to the investigation?"

I'd rather pay attention to the speculation based on actual events and facts than the lawyer spin. You know damned well they are not telling the whole truth.

So, this report of one or two indictments is likely moonshine. It's probably not the whole story.

It probably won't be 22 indictments, but it's not bloody likely to be zero, either. We just don't know. And neither do the press. Their information cannot be from Fitz, his staff, or the GJ. There's any number of reasons why this info might not be accurate.

I'm skeptical of everything I hear and read right now. Hang in there people. Keep the faith that Fitz is going to do the right thing here. It may not be as big as we want it to be (22 indictments, all for treason) but at this point it's not likely to be a blow out (zero indictments). Don't forget, the investigation does not necessarily have to end here.

[Ksec]

6. My guess is perjury for rove and libby

Id be really surprised if Fitz goes any further.

But Ill take it. Its gonna expose the entire GOP to the fact that their choices are shit.

Who would believe or trust people who do this kinda thing? Only other rejects and rethugs..

[Pam-Moby]

7. What are you talking about?

A couple of indictments????? I have not heard that this is the case. Where are you getting this information? :puffpiece:

[onenote]

9. Its a hypothetical

I've been suggesting for some time that, despite rumors to of 22 indictments, there might only be a couple of indictments (with Rove and Scooter as the most likely targets). My question assumed (and its just a hypothetical) that I'm right. And while the question was somewhat tongue in cheek, I think its predictable that some folks will turn on Fitz based on their assumption that the earlier, unconfirmed rumors, somehow represented something that was real.

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[alcibiades_mystery]

8. 18 seconds

Fitz will be the biggest villian in history in under ten monutes.

My prediction:

A) No indictments

B) if any indictments, they will be as follows:

I. Lewis Libby - 1 count perjury
I. Lewis Libby - 1 count obstruction of justice

I will use the following as my signature for 1 month if I'm wrong: "I'm a big idiot for underplaying the Plame Affair and getting the indictments dead wrong."

[onenote]

10. close, but no cigar

Some folks aren't even waiting for the indictments to begin expressing their "disappointment" with Fitz (although in fairness, most posters are reminding the OP that the 22 was just a rumor)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2180966&mesg_id=2180966

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[ieoeja]

11. Fitzpatrick's other big corruption case.

He has another big corruption case here in Illinois. It took seven years of court cases from his first indictment til they worked their way up the ladder to indict the guy at the top.

So I wouldn't hold my breath. Also, Illinois Republicans have zero backbone. I suspect those around the White House might be willing to remain silent and spend a couple years in jail until Idiot pardons them on his way out of office. Just like his daddy with the Iran-Contra convictions.

Of course, they will have to put their lives back together looking for work as highly paid Republican party wonks, lobbyists and maybe a CEO or two. It's not easy being a crooked Republican. Just look at all the guys who got convicted for Iran-Contra and who then had to come back to work in the White House for Idiot.