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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 02:47 PM
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Sweet confirms misogyny at heart of attack of lib Dem Cegelis (by Dems!)
Edited on Tue Oct-25-05 03:12 PM by Chicago Democrat
Misogyny and elitism.


People who are against this war, the bankrupcy bill and for liberal values were dismayed when the Chairman of the DCCC Rahm Emmanuel started attacking Democratic front runner Christine Cegelis last week in the SUn Times:

Recall my post from last week:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1857980

Sunday Lynn Sweet reported this:

Cegelis defended

In a column that ran last week, I wrote about how, in the wake of anemic fund-raising by Democratic congressional candidate Christine Cegelis, Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-Ill.), chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, was shopping for a wealthy Democrat who could self-fund or raise money for the race to replace retiring Rep. Henry Hyde (R-Ill.).

That brought this response: Ann Breen-Greco, of the "Women's Committee for Christine Cegelis'' is concerned that Emanuel and the DCCC "would rather look for a wealthy candidate'' than support Cegelis.

"The DCCC's rigid insistence on supporting male millionaires denigrates the right of people in a congressional district to elect a candidate of their choice. Rep. Emanuel, instead of looking for the highest bidder for this seat, should use his power as chair of the DCCC to back a qualified candidate -- Christine Cegelis.''

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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 02:56 PM
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1. Where is the misogyny?
On the surface it appears to be a baseless charge. If you support Cegelis, fine. Why the personal attack on Emanuel? There are wealthy women. I agree wealth should not be an issue, why not argue with that?
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 03:04 PM
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3. Emmanuel started this through surrogates! He either has to UNDO
it! Confirm it publically and explain himself. OR fucking disavow it!


What a WANKER! That's what! WHAT A HORRIBLE LEADER! That's WHat!


What DOES DURBIN have to say about this!??? IS NOT CHRISTINE 100% with Durbin on the issues?! Why are they comparing INCUMBENT FUND RAISING NUMBERS VERSUS A NEWCOMER!!


WHY DID RAHM USE THIS JUDITH MILLER STAB-IN-THE-BACK METHOD?!!!


RAHM HAS A LOT OF EXPLAINING TO DO!
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 03:11 PM
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5. Simple explanation, another DLCer.
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 03:15 PM
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6. Thank you for confirming Rahm Emmanuel is a member of the DLC
I was too, a long time ago.


Folks, the DLC is the enemy. Our "enemies" control the FUND RAISING MECHANISM in the national party!!!!!


Powerless sinking feeling. Where can I help Christine get money?
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 02:58 PM
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2. Cegelis polled quite well against Hyde last time
in the 40s. She's a viable candidate.

What's the real story with Rahm? Does this trace back to Daley?
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 03:10 PM
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4. Two stories: First, Cegelis' Rep. opponent Roskan took Delay MONEY!
This year!!! At a $2000 a breakfast dinner! Meanwhile Chistine has 2000 donors! Each giving 72 dollars each.. Basically we have our campaign commercial and message there. Delay/Roskam... Insider crooks, money link .... End of story..


Christine Cegelis.. Working mom.. Two kids, military age..


Second Story: Rahm is a fucking Lieberman type Democrat. Rahm sucks. Rahm is not a liberal. He's like DLC. He's a JERK. He's totally money and power oriented and his head is too big now. Rahm is a part of the problem.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 03:26 PM
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7. Isn't Rahm close to the Daley crew?
Do you think Daley is expressing his opinion about this district through Rahm?
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 03:49 PM
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10. Daley is a putz about a bunch of things... esp the Iraq War.
And he's wrong too. Rahm and Daley are quite alike yes.


Letsee: Daley's son is in Iraq and he's South Side Irish.

Rahm's district is little India, Skokie and the Wealthy North Shore.The fifth district is dripping in cash and ethic bias. Are the reasons Lieberman is pro-war have something to do with Skokie which is the same reason Rahm loves this war. Do many Hindu people along Devon just love this terror with Muslims or not? These are generalizations, I know. Am I allowed to say that? Were there 18,000 Muslim men deported from the 5th district after 2001, under Rahm's tutalege? Is Rahm as bad as Hitler, no. Is Rahm more gungho than Joe Lieberman? Yes. Oh and misogyny never, ever, ever , ever happens along Devon Avenue. oh never.


Rahm is an ASSHOLE.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 03:53 PM
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12. Ok, I get your opinion of Rahm
but my question is: is there someone else that Daley wants to see running in Hyde's district in place of Cegelis?
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 04:16 PM
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14. See, the whole 'problem' is that they announce this without ANYONE
in place.

In other words, 'we support any rich person' over Christine.


Despite.. 1) 600 volunteers 2) total campaign staff 3) on ballot 4)etc


so...

its just they don't like her... why? a) not rich b) too antiwar and their just 'fishing' for someone! That is misogyny. That is elitism. Or some other bias I haven't figured out.
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 03:37 PM
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8. She's running against Henry Hyde, not Roskan.
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 03:42 PM
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9. Henry isn't running.
Edited on Tue Oct-25-05 03:42 PM by ieoeja
He's retiring. This is an open seat.
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 03:50 PM
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11. Cegelis is not a dream candidate
And the GOP is throwing heavy money at the seat. Cegelis has basically said, I ran last time, so you have to support me this time. Emmanual and others are simply looking for a stronger candidate, not necessarily a millionaire, but one that can attract money. I belong to a Dem group that is going to work that district, but we are being totally agnostic. Whoever wins the primary, we will support with cash and bodies and oppo research and the like.

There is nothing vaguely misogynistic about this. We want this seat and should be able to win it. Cegelis should not assume that it's hers; that is why we have primaries.

Frankly, women tend to do better in these collar counties; Melissa Bean skunked Phil Crane last time and now the GOP has named her Public Enemy No. 1, so while we are dedicated to taking GOP seats, in her case we felt that she needs help so much that we are going to work for her campaign as well. I've already given Bean $100, and plan on about $500 or so next year to three candidates.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 03:58 PM
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13. Atrios is down on Bean
Low in the left-hand column of Eschaton she's in the Leftcoaster's "List of 31 losers."

Is this fair to her? What's her overall voting record? Does he understand the district she represents? Do these folks want another Phil Crane style Repub in Congress?
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 04:18 PM
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15. Bean is a dud... totally a gop me too-er. What a disappointment
Democrat in name only.
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 04:22 PM
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16. Hilarious...The only Democrat that has any right to attack Cegelis
is a Democrat that will run against her in the primary. That Democrat doesn't exist. Therefore any Democrat who attacks Cegelis in public and print with slimely journalists is working for Roskam.


See I have no problem with a primary challenge. Rahm is working for Roskam.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 05:22 PM
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17. and you are going to run against Bean, when?
I assume you are running against her since you criticised her in print.
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 05:30 PM
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18. She's a public figure and incumbent...
Plus she sucks because of her voting record. Still I hope she wins.

Me criticising her doesn't matter. Rahm Emmanuel criticising Cegelis during Quarter 3 of 7 is like killing a child. Rahm Emanuel is a woman hating mother fucker. So what am I? I'm a citizen. What is Rahm? Some kind of Republican Delay supporter who somehow got control of the DCCC and is now working for Roskam.


Wish I could run against her (Bean). But I live in the 6th district. I encourage everyone to support her because I'm a Democrat and that's what DEMOCRATS DO. Support democrats. Always vote straight ticket.


ALL of my criticisms of BEAN CONSISTE OF HER BEING A REPUBLICAN ON ISSUES. Go ahead and waste your money on her.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 05:37 PM
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19. You actually can run against her
You only have to live in Illinois to run for any house seat in Illinois (you probably would have to promise to move in to have any shot) but legally you could represent the district without moving into it.
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 05:45 PM
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20. Thank for the info!
I did not know that. I want her to win. I hope she moves to the left after she becomes a bit more sure of herself. As it stands now, she seems to feel like she has to appeal to very conservatives.

Maybe she does. Lake County is much different than Ohare land. We don't care about guns. We are Catholic. We have a Airport expanding. We have major poverty. We have gangs. So the district comes up with Cegelis. Your district comes up with Bean. Skokie and Devon Avenue gives us Emmanuel. I guess that's democracy.


Bean should HELP Cegelis. They should do a fundraiser TOGETHER. That will do a lot to paper over this HORROR that Rahm has done.
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