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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 11:01 PM
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Bush"not versed in international relations and not much interested either"
Slate
http://slate.msn.com/id/2128629

Now They Tell Us
Why didn't Bush's foreign-policy critics speak out a year ago?
By Fred Kaplan
Posted Monday, Oct. 24, 2005, at 3:10 PM PT

Scowcroft criticizes George Jr.

Two erstwhile loyalists have come out roaring against President George W. Bush this past week, attacking not just his conduct of the war in Iraq but the foundations of his foreign policy generally.

The critics are retired Lt. Gen. Brent Scowcroft, a longtime friend and former national security adviser of Bush's father, who attacks his targets in a profile by Jeffrey Goldberg in the latest issue of The New Yorker, and retired Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, another admirer of Bush Sr. and Colin Powell's former chief of staff, who launched his artillery in an Oct. 19 speech at the New America Foundation.

Scowcroft, besides voicing dismay over the invasion of Baghdad, slashes the administration—especially his old friend Dick Cheney and his own former underling Condoleezza Rice—for their "evangelical" notion that they can export democracy at the point of a gun.

Wilkerson goes further, charging Cheney and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld with running foreign policy like a "cabal"—worse still, an "incompetent" cabal that has "courted disaster in Iraq, in North Korea, in Iran." He says they've gotten away with it because the president is "not versed in international relations and not much interested in them either."
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 11:04 PM
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1. they allowed as how he was stupid

but assured us that he would surround himself w/ knowledgable people.

we knew how THAT would work out! Miserably !!
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 11:05 PM
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2. and it did n/t
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freethought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 11:54 PM
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3. I ask the question then.
What is * interested in?
Tax Cuts?
Out of control spending?
Wars that have little purpose than to feed his ego?
Promoting his cronies?
Making himself look like a pilot in front of the cameras?

Maybe George should become an actor! After all, he CAN follow a script.
OOps! Bad choice! When he reads his lines he will verbally butcher them.
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 12:07 AM
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4. I worry about what will happen with both the scriptwriter (Rove) and
surrogate father (Cheyney) gone. As they well may be soon.

Is this one of those "be careful what you wish for" kinda things? Maybe his dad can straighten him out (as bad as that might be, it's better than him acting alone).
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 08:54 PM
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8. maybe Babs could?
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freethought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 11:05 PM
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9. Oh that would be great!!
Press:"Mr. President, why did you bomb that country?"

W: "My mommy told me to."

:P :P
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 12:42 AM
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6. He is reading lines from RW special interests
The theocons give him the moral script of wedge issues.

Grover Nordquist and others on tax cuts and anarcho-capitalism.

Neocons on world domination.

who did I leave out?

then he reads the little folder they place in front of him.

and give him well screened RW audiences

and many photo ops.

he stays on script because when he goes off of it he is a dolt.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:03 PM
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7. standup comedian...
and to quote the beatles, "all he's got to do is act naturally".
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freethought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 11:10 PM
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10. Naaah! If you're a comedian you often have to improvise.
If Jr. is reading from a script he'd better stay on script. Asking * to improvise is like giving a pyromaniac matches and the keys to the fireworks factory. Not a good idea.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 03:04 PM
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13. your right...
but he could just stand on stage and smirk and twitch. people would laugh!!
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 12:19 AM
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5. WE KNEW THIS IN 1999
Where were they then?
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 11:34 PM
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11. He's very versed....lookie here...on some of his verses
Edited on Wed Oct-26-05 11:37 PM by IChing
DUBYA: And you came up from where?
CHRIS SANFORD (Dep't of Energy Employee): We were relocated from West Tennessee --
DUBYA: Yes, Tennessee, good. Nice part of the world.

-- I guess for Dubya, "world" and "America" are interchangeable, Portsmouth, Ohio, Sep. 10, 2004
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"There's a lot of help moving into this part of the world."

-- By "this part of the world", Dubya means the region of Florida stricken by Hurricane Charley, Punta Gorda, Florida, Aug. 15, 2004
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"But we've got a big border in Texas, with Mexico, obviously -- and we've got a big border with Canada -- Arizona is affected."

-- No matter how you slice it, this statement is geographically challenged, Washington, D.C., Jun. 24, 2004
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"Over 50 percent of our energy comes from overseas. Fortunately, a lot of it comes from Canada."

-- Apparently an invisible ocean separates the U.S. and Canada, town hall forum in Ontario, California, Jan. 5, 2002
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DUBYA: So what state is Wales in?
CHURCH: It's a separate country next to England.
DUBYA: Oh, okay.

-- Exchange between Dubya and Welsh teenage singing sensation Charlotte Church, as reported in MSNBC, Oct. 31, 2001
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"We spent a lot of time talking about Africa, and we should. Africa is a nation that suffers from incredible disease."
-- Warsaw, Poland, Jun. 15, 2001
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"Vice President mentioned Nigeria is a fledgling democracy. We have to work with Nigeria. That's an important continent.'
-- Presidential debate, Winston-Salem, North Carolina, Oct. 11, 2000
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"We work very closely with the foreign ministers of France, Germany, and Great Britain, who have been the folks delivering the message to the mullahs that if you expect to be part of the world of nations, get rid of your nukyular programs."

-- As soon as they figure out what the world of nations is, perhaps they'll take Dubya up on his offer, First Presidential Debate, Coral Gables, Florida, Sep. 30, 2004
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 12:21 PM
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12. what state is Wales in?hahahahahaha
:rofl:
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