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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 06:00 AM
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New line of attack by right-wingers: It was wrong what we did to Clinton
http://select.nytimes.com/gst/tsc.html?URI=http://select.nytimes.com/2005/10/25/opinion/25kristof.html&OQ=nQ3DTopQ252fOpinionQ252fEditorialsQ2520andQ2520OpQ252dEdQ252fOpQ252dEdQ252fColumnists&OP=1e52659bQ2FpoQ5EQ7DpLF8Q27Q27LpQ2BQ26Q26xp)Q26pQ2BxpQ27Q22Q24TQ24Q27TpQ2Bxb8Q24FLQ27Q5CsULlQ20

Unfornately you have to sign up to read this entire article but they show the main comment made by Nicholas Kristoff:

It was wrong for prosecutors to cook up borderline indictments during the Clinton administration, and it would be just as wrong now in the C.I.A. leak case

So I guess the new line of attack is this: Let's admit that we were out of line with Clinton and then say that this is nothing but a revenge attack against the Bush Regime

:puke:

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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 06:03 AM
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1. Once you hear Kay Bailey Hutchenson, you realize just how big
this is!!! I mean Clinton got Impeached for a Blowjob!!!!
This man and his "Croynies" have killed thousands, and ruined America, Iraq, etc.....


I'll take a sexcapade anyday!!!
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 06:04 AM
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2. Ya, sure
:rofl:
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LiberalinNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 06:09 AM
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3. Better late than never to admit "they" were wrong....
HA HA!!! This administration has far exceeded a blow job!
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Dangerously Amused Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 06:10 AM
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4. Next: It was wrong to vote Bush into office, so...

...uhm... it would be just as wrong to impeach him? Yeah, that's the ticket!


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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 06:10 AM
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5. Oh fuck.... this kind of angle is tailor made for O'Reilly.
In fact I bet this is picked up by O'Reilly and run with.

dispicable O'Reilly frames the debate to give an initial superficial appearance that he is coming from both sides but the hammer always comes swinging down on the "leftists." I just hope not very many people buy his "no spin" shit anymore.


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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 06:12 AM
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7. O'Reilly will never say it was wrong to impeach Clinton. eom
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NicRic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 06:12 AM
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6. Let the facts decide !
just as in the Clinton case let the fats decide just how serious or not this situation is . We as Dems know how corrupt this White house is and feel there is even more to what has been taking place then just the CIA leak .I hope everything comes out ,the stolen election, the kickbacks for no bid contracts with the war in Iraq ,and the whole Iraq war being a planned war having nothing to do with weapons of mass destruction or liberating Irag, instead war profiterring for certain people and corperations all tied to the bushes ! Hopefully once the surface is scrathed ,a bigger picture will start to appear ,one of a white house so corrupt it makes anything the Clintons did laughable in contrast !
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 06:18 AM
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8. It's just so easy to say you're wrong after the damage has been done
Edited on Thu Oct-27-05 06:18 AM by Solly Mack
and nothing can change it

or

when it suits your agenda (politically expedient)

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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 10:18 AM
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23. The Republicans have a saying about that
It is better to ask forgiveness than to ask permission. IOW just do it and say you are sorry later but the deed gets done...
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 06:18 AM
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9. hey, they shouldn't comment on an on-going investigation. as * says....
let fitz do his job.
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BrainRants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 06:32 AM
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10. Thank You for your remorse. Now watch as we do something we'll NOT regret
nt.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 06:38 AM
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11. Payback is a bitch..
... and doesn't the bible talk about retribution in terms of four-fold, or is it seven?

The difference is that while you assholes hounded Clinton for 8 years for no reason other than you were pissed that Americans were sick of Republicans (but not as sick as they are now) - the crimes you are accused of and almost certainly perpetrated are actually serious.

It's a little late for mea culpas. Fuck you all.
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Red Knight Donating Member (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 06:40 AM
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12. It's an interesting tactic
They try to back away from the hypocrite label and offer to shrug both indictments off as equal offenses--a blow job and treason.

Hmmmmmm.

Good luck with that, Fox.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 06:47 AM
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13. This has nothing to do with Clinton, THIS IS TREASON
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 06:53 AM
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14. they didn't say it was wrong back then
they can fuck themselves
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 06:56 AM
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15. Their comparing a blow job investigation to TREASON?!?!? Nice try....
Edited on Thu Oct-27-05 06:57 AM by OneTwentyoNine
Thats OK,you guys did your bullshit investigation and impeachment of Clinton over a lie about a hummer.

We'll continue with our TREASON investigation and let the chips fall where they will--AND THEY WILL!!
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lentalbot Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 07:30 AM
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19. CONTINUE INVESTIGATING
Let's hope that somehow, someway the Dems can continue to investigate and, if they find what many of us suspect to be true, prosecute to the fullest. (I wonder if Scalia and Thomas will weigh in as they did in Bush v Gore?)
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 07:03 AM
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16. Oh yeah???????
That's a well-reasoned, well-thought out REPUBLICAN response to the pending indictments if I ever heard one.

My response to them, if they asked me personally and in the spirit of their argument against, would be either:

1.)Nan-nan-a-boo-boo to you too,

or

2.)I call the indictments ok and legal and everything, no changies, American Eagle, period.


:rofl:
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 07:08 AM
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17. That's not even a good try.
Here we have a *Republican* prosecutor investigating *Republicans.* He was appointed by a *Republican* AG, who in turn was appointed by a *Republican* Presideant and approved by a *Republican* Congress. There are no Democrats anywhere in this process.

There's also a rather stark difference in the seriousness of the crimes being investigated.

To sum up: It's bullshit.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 07:20 AM
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18. Yeah...."It's time to look to the future"
I love what these people say whenever they're in trouble. Another one of my favorites is "Let's work on the problems we have facing us right now". They never run out of 'em.
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Goldeneye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 07:34 AM
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20. Desperate times call for desperate measures.
They must be pretty worried to try this.
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AirAmFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 09:27 AM
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21. Nominated! 'Borderline indictments' of Clinton is BRILLIANT spin--
Nixon's henchmen perfected what Woodward-Bernstein called the "non-denial denial". Now Dubya's spinners have started to float "non-retraction retractions" of their crucifixion of Bill Clinton and his friends. By alleging "borderline indictments" of Clinton-era figures, whose crimes were imaginary, the Rethugs confess to only the slightest of slight "misjudgments". Then they use that "non-retraction retraction" to call for forgiveness of treason by Libby, Cheney, Rove and Dubya. Bravo!
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 10:11 AM
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22. Ken Starr came out and said "he was unfair" a few years ago. I wonder
if Ken said this before or after the investigation into the Plame Affair started? Hmmm
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 10:19 AM
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24. It's so easy to say we are wrong/unfair after the damage is done
I guess that's the difference between us and the repukes!
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