Miers was used by this administration as a Wild Card to control whether

[frankly_fedup2]

or not anyone was indicted. His appointment of Harriet Miers really pissed off the Religious Right as well as the Right's talking idiot heads. Her lack of experience even surprised the Congress. Everyone was shaking their head in disbelief of this appointment. Now I think we all can see the strategy.

I think her whole appointment was a shame from the very beginning, whether she knew it or not, but they used this woman to try to control the special prosecutor; however, Fitzpatrick is not going to be bought.

The timing of her stepping down now is even suspicious. They have today and tomorrow to bring the indictments, and if they do not, they have to start all over with the grand jury.

I think the indictments are coming very soon, even possibly this morning some time. Since Cheney and Bush couldn't stop Fitzpatrick, they had Harriett Miers to step down so they could use their next weapon. What is that weapon?

Bush, Cheney, and the other cronies in this administration will get the most Conservative nominee they can find. They are going to use this person to divide the Congress again. Even those on the right have started to cross the isle with some of Bush's decisions. This new nominee will be someone well liked by the right; however, the left will raise Holy Hell about this person and in no way will this person ever be accepted by the left.

We may have lost the battle, but we will not lose the war against these people. Hopefully, with these indictments, more information will come out.

My only fear is that if Cheney is indicted and has to resign, Bush will appoint Condi as his VP. That would be a major historical decision. The first woman to be VP as well as the first African American. If Cheney is not involved and does not have to resign, I think Cheney is going to retire before the elections in 08. I think even then Bush is going to appoint Condi VP when Cheney retires. Then if Condi runs for Prez, Hillary will have no choice but to run.

I'm exhausted with these people. It's constantly one thing after another. Talk about an "axis of evil."

[notadmblnd]

1. pull Miers and he doesn't get indited?

Makes sense, they were talking yesterday they the prosecutor offered KKKarl a deal, maybe they made bush one too?

[frankly_fedup2]

12. No. The other way around. (nt)

[underpants]

2. *SEE* they aren't all in lock step SEE????

SEE yes all you who have been carrying our water DO have a voice here SEE????

SEE we do really care about abortion and yes we DO have a litmus test SEE????

[SCDem]

4. Are you just copying and pasting now underpants!!

:hi:

[underpants]

8. No

Can't you see the difference?

Sorry that is my take on the whole Meirs thing so I figured I would just put it on the first two threads I saw. Since they will probably be the only two threads on that topic I figured that that should cover it.

[SCDem]

9. I understand your point

I still think that this "SEE" strategy really is not advantagous for the president or the RNC for that matter.

[underpants]

11. No it doesn't appear to be

I think that what I posted above is just what they came up with in response to they huge screw up.

Without over stating it-this is a pretty big moment for W. They really want Roe done and over with and they ("pro-Life"rs) want payback and now. Again all this started with Schiavo-Randall Terry was all over the place saying "WE WANT RESULTS NOW" and they still want them. I know that Terry is just a yardsign to the real powers that be there but this will be very telling.

Will W actually give them what they want?
What will THEY do without abortion (the perfect issue)?
Will legislatures be forced to make it legal again?

Will their base be able to tell where they really stand in the hierarchy's book?

[MemphisTiger]

3. This was all a smokescreen

Whoever he nominates next will get a free ride because they are better than Miers. She was used to lower the bar. Sound familiar?

[frankly_fedup2]

10. Whoever is going to be nominated is going to be someone so controversial

that the confirmation process will keep the country's attention span more than the indictments. Watch and see what happens. They are really good at propaganda and controlling the media. They have been pretty good at controlling the American people by using our fears against us as well. Whenever something controversial would come up, suddenly our terrorist attack level would also go up.

They always have to keep the pot at the point of almost boiling over.

[formernaderite]

17. Smokescreen to distract from all the other bad news...

set up by Rove.

[Carni]

18. I agree with you 100%--you worded it better than I did

I believe your theory is EXACTLY what they did.

They have pulled this trick so many times I have lost track but it's one of their standard moves.

[jody]

5. I'll bet you have fun taking an inkblot test.

:hi:

[frankly_fedup2]

13. Yeah, they are kind of fun. I didn't understand them because they

all looked like a bug or some kind of animal to me. Wonder what that means.

Anyway, I was still inpatient on my own accord so I must have passed. :crazy:

[Not Sure]

6. Sleight of hand

The next time you see a magician, don't watch the hand that's moving around, waving colored scarves. Watch the other hand - that's where the real action is.

It's the same thing every time with these people. If indictments don't wound this administration severely, our only chance will be the 2006 election. I am sick with the thought of having to wait that long.

[southpaw]

7. Gerald Fitzpatrick?

;)

[frankly_fedup2]

15. DUH! I got my name messered up.

Patrick Fitzgerald :banghead: Now, that's better.

[txaslftist]

14. I think you give them too much credit for smarts.

This maladministration has really, in retrospect, done and said a lot of really really stupid things. The fact that they've got a cabal of presstitutes on hand to give them a pass no matter how dumb their actions creates an impression of this well-oiled machine, when in reality the wheels have been coming off for six years straight.

Bush's nomination of Meirs was not part of some grand, sneaky "strategory" to get his "real" choice on the bench. It was a miscalculation, an error, a blunder plain and simple. Just like his failure to do anything about immigration, his permitting the largest deficits in US history to go unmolested, his permitting pork politics, his practice of rampant cronyism, his public statement that catching Osama Bin Ladin was (and presumably remains) "not a priority".

He really is just plain old incompetent. Not sneaky incompetent, not incompetent as a ruse, not incompetent but surrounded by a clever cabal...

Just incompetent. His cabal is just as incompetent (albeit unadulterated evil).

The US is only now coming to realize this.

[frankly_fedup2]

19. Oh, I agree with you as far as Dumbya is concerned; however, I have

never felt he did anything but try to read the speeches written for him. They wouldn't even let him out near the press his first term unless he had something already prepared. Now this term, they've let him out a little bit, and he has performed miserably as expected.

I always have felt Bush was nothing but the name that got the Republicans in control in the White House. Everyone he appointed were men who worked with his dad and/or Reagan. Why?

I may be giving them more credit for intelligence then they deserve; however, everything they do is done for a reason, and the reason is always to get their way whether it is against the law or not.

I feel all of these older men in this administration, and even Bush, are so vindictive, they are out to destroy anyone that does not back them in all of their decisions. Just like they ruined a woman's 20-year career and even possibly have jeopardized her and her family's lives.

Several of these men have signed the mission statement of PNAC, a Think Tank that was mainly created by William Kristol and Jeb Bush in Washington, and have all the information posted online. Below is a snippet of their "Statement of Principals."

This is their "Statement of Principals" posted on their site http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm

Our aim is to remind Americans of these lessons and to draw their consequences for today. Here are four consequences:

• we need to increase defense spending significantly if we are to carry out our global responsibilities today and modernize our armed forces for the future;

• we need to strengthen our ties to democratic allies and to challenge regimes hostile to our interests and values;

• we need to promote the cause of political and economic freedom abroad;

• we need to accept responsibility for America's unique role in preserving and extending an international order friendly to our security, our prosperity, and our principles.

They tried to get Clinton to start the war with Iraq in 1997. They've been chomping at the bit for years to get into Iraq and 9/11 gave them their excuse.

Well, I'm probably telling you things you already know.

I just cannot get rid of the feeling that this Miers withdrawal and the possible indictments are not connected in some way. The timing is strange.

[Catfight]

16. Impeachment will stop the cronyism in it's track, it's the sword that will

stop an illegal war in it's track, a corrupt administration in it's track and move us forward and away from the Nixon Party (aka:Repugs)