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Jai4WKC08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 06:58 PM
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UPDATE: Ed Schultz on Armed Forces Radio
A few various items:

Ed participated in a press conference DC with numerous Democratic representatives this morning. A write-up in the Mid-East edition of the military's Stars & Stripes newpaper:

IG probe urged in delay of talk show's start on AFN radio
By Leo Shane III, Stars and Stripes
Mideast edition, Friday, October 28, 2005

WASHINGTON — Democrats are demanding an investigation into defense officials’ decision to delay a liberal talk show’s debut on American Forces Radio last week.

On Thursday, Rep. Steve Israel, D-N.Y., and other House Democrats requested the Defense Department inspector general look into “the Pentagon’s delay in providing balanced programming on AFN Radio.”

In addition, about 90 House Democrats sent a letter to Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld asking for a timetable on when liberal radio programs might start airing on the military’s international network, saying the current offerings lack political balance.

(snip)

Also Thursday, Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, said he plans to offer an amendment to the Defense Authorization Bill to require “political balance in talk radio programming” on AFN Radio. That measure is expected to come before the Senate in the next few weeks.

http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=32590


Ed said on his radio program today that approximately 20,000 responses had been generated by Wes Clark's letter-writing effort. If you haven't sent yours yet, it's not too late: http://securingamerica.com/node/287
PLEASE ask use the link there to ask/demand your reps and senators take action!

Clark will be on Ed's radio show tomorrow, in the 5pm eastern hour. Paul Hackett and Joe Wilson are also scheduled for tomorrow's show. Ed will broadcast from the Plumbers' and Pipe Fitters Union Hall in Columbus OH.

If you don't get Ed's show, you can listen live on-line at his website at http://www.wegoted.com/
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 07:01 PM
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1. Wonderful! Thank you for this
update!

Good Luck with this Senator Harkin..

"Also Thursday, Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, said he plans to offer an amendment to the Defense Authorization Bill to require “political balance in talk radio programming” on AFN Radio. That measure is expected to come before the Senate in the next few weeks."

It's not like the repigs are going to want any balance.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 07:02 PM
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2. A must read, Nom and Kick. Wesley Clark in 08
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 07:09 PM
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3. Also, I just sent
a letter to clinton, schumer, and boehlert.
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judy from nj Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 07:25 PM
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4. This is great news
20,000 letters is a lot. The link at General CLarks site is really great. You put in your address and it finds your senator and congressman.

I'm looking forward to hearing all of the guests tomorrow.
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wellstone dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 07:26 PM
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5. Just sent my email to
Dayton
Coleman
Kennedy

I can't wait to see Normie's form response.
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indigo32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 09:48 PM
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18. he he... got mine earlier today
Dear Ms. Indigo:



Thank you for taking the time to contact me concerning the inclusion of Mr. Ed Schultz's program on radio broadcasts to our armed forces.



I have contacted the Department of Defense (DOD) with your concerns. I was informed that while Mr. Manny Levy, Chief of the Radio Division of the American Forces Network, had offered Mr. Schultz an hour of programming on American Forces Radio, he did not have the authority to do so. Therefore, Mr. Shultz's radio show was cancelled. This does not mean that Mr. Shultz's radio show will not be offering programming on American Forces Radio at a later date.



The DOD is committed to providing the same variety of radio programming that soldiers would receive at home. However, DOD policy also requires that shows have a minimum of one million listeners per week to be eligible for broadcast over American Forces Radio. According to the DOD, Mr. Schultz's program currently does not meet this requirement.



I will continue to follow this important issue. I appreciate hearing from you and hope you will not hesitate to contact me on any issue of concern to you.



Sincerely,
Norm Coleman
United States Senate
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:44 AM
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35. Does this mean Ed has 1.75 million listeners a week?



I'm not informed on "cume" -- I think it means cumulative audience share, though.

Maybe you need to let Coleman know.
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indigo32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:58 AM
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37. Good point
I hadn't looked it up.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 12:43 PM
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39. I checked with Brian at DemBloggers
to confirm this means Ed has 1.75 million listeners a week.

He says YES.

BTW, DemBloggers will be starting up a new radio show themselves.

http://www.dembloggers.com/special/DEMRadio1

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TexAggie Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:31 PM
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42. If PBS, why not AFR ?
It's funny... they demand that the programming on
publicly funded networks such as PBS be balanced.
Why not the military's radio network???

Tx
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Texas_Kat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:49 PM
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43. Welcome to DU, TexAggie
Texas_Kat '76!
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 07:39 PM
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6. Done and Nom
:)
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 07:50 PM
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7. This is wonderful news!
Not often do we get to make a difference. And, thanks to Wes for giving us that chance.

Thanks for posting this, Jai. Another bite of the elephant...

TC
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 07:56 PM
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8. I can't help wondering
didn't Ed and his producer have some kind of written contract with those bozos?

I can't do anything involving the government without filling out ten reams of paperwork in triplicate. WTH don't they just whip out their paperwork and shove it in Poopsie's face? Hard to believe they would actually do business with Bushies on a handshake or a phone call, but what do I know?
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:34 PM
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10. Oooo, good point. Why wouldn't there be a paper trail?
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:48 PM
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12. I'm pretty sure I read
that it was a verbal agreement.
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NancyG Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 09:05 PM
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14. I heard Ed say that he had a letter stating
when the broadcast would start. As he was not getting paid, probably no contract.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 09:17 PM
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16. a verbal contract? That wouldn't fly with a copyrighted (and syndicated)
broadcast show, on a government network. Maybe especially if it was provided free. Something seems out of whack here.

Of course I would love to see a liberal get carried on AFRN, an Ed seems ok. I certainly hope there is paperwork, although a letter seems pretty slim. I'm just curious about the details of this deal. Wouldn't like to see a progressive media outlet get caught out being stupid--again.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:33 PM
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9. Yea for Harkin.
:thumbsup:
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:38 PM
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11. Hey, Tom, tack on an amendment like that for the rest of us here in
the USA!!!!!
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Nabia2004 Donating Member (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:32 AM
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33. Right, bring back the "Fairness in Media Doctrine" for all broadcasting
This is encouraging news.

Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, said he plans to offer an amendment to the Defense Authorization Bill to require “political balance in talk radio programming” on AFN Radio. That measure is expected to come before the Senate in the next few weeks.


But a new "Fairness in Media Doctrine" needs to be applied to all broadcasting. Be sure to make a note of this when you write your congressmen.
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Jai4WKC08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 07:52 PM
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44. That reminds me...
It was on Jan 5 2004 that Wes Clark called for a limit on media consolidation and a return to the Fairness Doctrine. He was almost immediately blacked out from major network coverage for the remainder of his campaign, and doesn't get his fair share now.

Could it be that our elected Dems are afraid to screw with the corporate media?
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 12:33 AM
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45. You know, I didn't put this together....no wonder why Clark is
blacked out....this and the fact that he talks straight about Bushco...
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:53 PM
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13. Way to go!! n/t
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 09:05 PM
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15. Signed the petition. nt
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 09:42 PM
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17. The thing that is so crazy about this - is we're talking about ED!
Ed - the good ol' boy from North Dakota.

It's not Randi and her rants. Not Stephanie Miller and her
hilarious making fun of the bushies. Not Malloy.

It's Ed. The most conservative of all of the liberal talkers.

Give me a break.
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CarolNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 09:59 PM
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19. yep
This is not like the liberal version of Limbaugh or anything...These people are so pathetic it's not even close to being funny...

It's makes me so mad that they think they can get away with stuff like this....

Nice to see the Dems in Congress getting involved.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 10:04 PM
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20. Good news!!
I'm not a huge Ed fan but I'm glad to hear that they're open to more liberal hosts. It's ridiculous how they don't have all types of radio on that network. Is his show archived? I'm not able to listen at the time he's on and was wondering if there were archives I could listen to. I'd love to hear him interview Clark, Hackett and Wilson.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 10:13 PM
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21. Simple solution..Put Ed on too, or yank Rush
Rush cannot have it both ways.. He's a "bomb-thrower", a bombastic mysogynist,a blatantly partisan republican..Pure onesided propaganda..

Either "the other side" gets a modicum of 'equal time", or he's off..

When Rush is called on his antics, he claims to be an 'entertainer", yet all his 'entertainment" is totally at the expense of anything/anyone who happens to NOT be republican..

Saddam's amilitary was the Republican guard..Not OUR military..

If political speech is not balanced, let the radio station stick to sports, music & car-talk.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 11:29 PM
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22. Thanks. I'd called. Will write as well.
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CanOfWhoopAss Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 12:18 AM
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23. Done nt
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 07:56 AM
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24. Ed would be good for the Military
his style of gun-toting, meat-eating, working class liberalism works nicely for "ordinary people" like soldiers and workers.

I was shocked when a construction worker struck up a conversation with me in an elevator on how Ed Shulz is the greatest thing since sliced bread and that Rush is a big fat stupid drug addicted hypocrite. :wow:

It was awesome.
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Jai4WKC08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 10:01 AM
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26. Good point!
Not only is Ed's market share growing all over, it is especially surging in the 18-54yo male demographic.

Gee, aren't most military members 18-54 yo males?

Which is probably precisely why the Pentagon civilians want to keep Ed off of AFN. I suspect they'd actually rather have someone more liberal from Air America.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 09:51 AM
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25. Clark will be on Ed's show today 5:05 PM Eastern
I am sure this will be the topic of discussion.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 10:14 AM
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28. Hackett, too!
I can't tell if they will be on together.

http://www.bigeddieradio.com/todayonshow/index.asp


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Texas_Kat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 10:14 AM
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27. I really like Big Ed
He's not a fire-breather, but he's got quite a wry view of things. I'm going to listen today!
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 10:15 AM
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29. Oh, Jeez
I didn't sleep enough last night. Sorry to repeat what was in your OP.
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Jai4WKC08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 10:49 AM
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30. Joe Wilson and Michael Coleman too
It's gonna be a most excellent program. I will probably listen to the whole three hours, even tho it ties up my dial-up something terrible.

I heard Coleman (mayor of Columbus) speak with General Clark in a video from when they were campaigning together for Kerry. He had endorsed Clark and they were fun to watch together. Not that I think they're gonna be on at the same time today. I suspect Clark will be phoning in his interview, since Ed is broadcasting from Columbus.

Not a problem repeating. Good news is worth hearing twice. :)
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:06 AM
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31. Posted at Move Left.
www.moveleft.com
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johnlal Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:14 AM
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32. This misses the point.
The point is not to BALANCE the airwaves. The point is to REMOVE Rush Limbaugh from the airwaves. He is an embarrassment to this country, and a danger to our troops. When our troops are listening to this gas bag cheering on the Abu Ghraib torturers, it leads to hatred of our troops abroad.

The tactic has switched from removing Limbaugh to trying to "balance him out". That's a cop-out. Focus!
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Jai4WKC08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:43 AM
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34. That's a valid point, but...
It's probably not politically feasible. Rush has been on AFN radio for over 10 years, and he's unfortunately very popular with a large segment of the military. Not all of 'em, not by a long shot. But we stand a far better shot at getting something different for the military who are not dit(to)-heads, than taking Rush away from those who are.

But hey, knock yourself out. If you use the link above to write your members of Congress, you can re-write the "suggested" letter any way you want. Or take the initiative to look up their addresses and just write something on your own. But please, make your voice heard.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:50 AM
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36. Thank you for posting this!
Lets kick this tread!!! :kick:
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 12:04 PM
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38. If anyone wants more talking points...
I've been digging around this issue all week and started a diary at dkos about it. I said to myself Monday I would try to help keep it alive until the indictments came down, and look where that left me, lol. Here is my 5th diary entry, put up there today:

Yesterday I shared the letter Norm Coleman sent constituents explaining why the Ed Schultz show was cancelled from the Armed Forces Radio line up; an alleged DOD "Policy" that a show needed a million listeners before it could be considered for AFR. Today I am looking closer at the history of such DOD "policies" and how they have been applied before. If you read all my diaries this week, and the comment replies, some of this has been posted before. But here it is all nicely repackaged, fortified with new details.

Not popular enough. That is the excuse Senator Norm Coleman gave to constituents for why the Department of Defense had to cancel airing Ed Schultz on Armed Forces Radio Quoting from Coleman:

"The DOD is committed to providing the same variety of radio programming that soldiers would receive at home. However, DOD policy also requires that shows have a minimum of one million listeners per week to be eligible for broadcast over American Forces Radio. According to the DOD, Mr. Schultz's program currently does not meet this requirement."

I, and a host of others I am sure, suspect that the DOD is cooking with stale numbers here. Liberal Talk Radio has been exploding over the last six months, with the most popular programs picking up new broadcast outlets each week. It wouldn't surprise me if all the publicity generated by this censorship fiasco doesn't garner "Big Ed" a million new listeners just by itself. Neat little phrase though, "DOD policy", isn't it?. As if "DOD Policy" is the discussion stopper; "Gee, you make some real good points, but we can't do anything about it. It's against DOD policy." We aren't exactly talking the Bill of Rights here. It doesn't take a two thirds vote of the States to change DOD policy. Who writes this stuff anyway do you figure, a latter day James Madison, or a present day Larry DiRita? (see previous blog entry for more on DiRita). Under the Bush Administration "DOD policies", like everything else, have increasingly been politicized, and those who judge when and how to apply them are those who politicize in the first place. Walk with me through some prior public discussions of "DOD policies" related to Armed Forces Radio:

From the June 2,2004 edition of Wolf Blitzer Reports:

"VOICEOVER: There is no direct liberal talk show counterpart to Limbaugh, but, they point out, no liberal broadcaster has built such a huge audience at home.

BARBER: It's not about conservative or liberal, it's about the full selection of radio programming which is based on popularity here in the states.

VOICEOVER: Still, Howard Stern has millions of fans, and his show is not sent to the troops.

BARBER: Well, his issue is one of content that's not appropriate."

That's Allison Barber by the way, deputy assistant secretary of defense for public affairs and part time drama coach.

National Public Radio did some excellent in depth coverage of this back on June4th of 2004, where Allison Barber defended Armed Forces Radio broadcasting.

"ALLISON BARBER: The challenge for us is that part of our policy is also that we are prohibited to manipulate or censor, so not only is that something that is aired, because we're not allowed to manipulate to censor programming, we also air news and information where people are sometimes critical of our troops. But the bottom line is the men and women in the military are smart people. They hear that as just some body's opinion. They don't have to listen to it. They have options. They can turn off or turn on whoever they want to.

BOB GARFIELD: Well, not whoever they want to. They can't turn on, for example, Howard Stern, the second most highly rated radio program in America and one that has taken a decided anti-Bush administration turn the last six months. If they can turn on Rush Limbaugh to hear him rant about feminazis, why can't they hear Howard Stern?

ALLISON BARBER: To be honest with you, our troops haven't asked for Howard Stern. We have some issues with some of the sexual content of Howard Stern, just like most Americans do."
By all means read the full transcript:http://www.onthemedia.org/...

It seems to me that Howard Stern would fit the criteria of "the same variety of radio programming that soldiers would receive at home" and no one doubts that he is "popular" enough. But there is that matter of "sexual content", true. I appreciate that today's enlightened Department of Defense opposes programming deemed demeaning to women. One can only imagine what they would do if someone tried to describe United States Military Female Officers as "orificers" over Armed Forces Radio. On second thought, save that brain cell. Rush Limbaugh already did that and nothing happened. He keeps right on broadcasting. It happened in May of 2004 when he was all worked up over "Abu Ghraib" at the time. Not over the scandals mind you, those he compared to "fraternity pranks". No, he saved his scorn for "Liberals" and Female Officers:

"...In fact, William Lindh, who directs the Center for Cultural Conservatism at the Free Congress Foundation writes in a column this week that the apparent breakdown in discipline from the MPs at Abu Grab may relate to the presence of women and especially to the fact that the commander was a woman. The climate of political correctness or to give it its true name, 'Cultural Marxism..."

(Laughing). Well, okay. (Laughing.) "...Cultural Marxism that has infested and overwhelmed the American armed forces makes it almost impossible to discipline a woman, and risky for a man to attempt to do so. Whatever the reason, one theme is clear: Abu Grab was a disaster waiting to happen. Rules on uniforms were not enforced, soldiers wrote poems and other sayings on their helmets..." Oh, really? Are you telling me that these brutes, these brutes who did all these horrible, insulting things to these people, wrote poetry? Come on, how does that happen? Poets are gentle little flowers wilting in the breeze. Well, it might have been limericks, but anyway, so they wrote poems and other sayings on their helmets, saluting of "orificers" was not forced..."

William Lind (correct spelling) whom Limbaugh was quoting did not use the term "orificers", that was all Rush.

Limbaugh was so worked up over Abu Grab that on May 13, 2004 he said, regarding the prisoner abuse photos, that Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA) could have Representatives "Barney Frank and Nancy Pelosi act them out for him". On May 27, Limbaugh responded to a report that women have been recently appointed as police chiefs in four major U.S. cities by stating, "I guess we can watch out for some naked pyramids among prisoners in these new jailhouses ... because we had a woman running (Abu Ghraib)".

There is more like this, gathered by "Media Matters" at http://mediamatters.org/... Thank God for DOD policies.

Please join Wes Clark's call for action on this. Generate letters and emails directly to your Representatives and Senators in Congress: : http://securingamerica.com/node/287

Here is the URL for the full dkos diary with all 5 entries:
http://tom-rinaldo.dailykos.com/


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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:08 PM
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40. kick
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Jai4WKC08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 05:46 PM
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41. Audio of Clark on Big Eddie's radio show today
Please download it to your own computer before listening, to save Ice some bandwidth. :)

http://www.u-wes-a.com/vidclips/ES_102805.mp3
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 12:36 AM
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46. Except for Franken, it looks like Jones with Miller and Schultz is
doing better than Air America...where is Randi Rhodes?????
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